I have met Dr Manneh. I am an ex-officer, not a suspect. I have seen all sorts of person in that place. I have asked him what those people were doing there. He told me that any people - all the people you - all the people you can think of, different type of people, you can find them in this place. There were some people who were experts in explosives and that is at that occasion also that I have known really what Mahtaba was; what was happening in that place.