Yes, the times Sam Bockarie left and went to Liberia to Mr Taylor and again when Foday Sankoh was arrested in Freetown during the May incident 2000 Issa took over as a leader, as acting leader of the RUF. During that time again Issa had a satellite phone through Liberia. So he himself was talking to Mr Taylor. So whatever they discussed, he would do the same thing by sending messages to all commanders through field radio communications. And even if the RUF spokesman or whomsoever was representing BBC Focus on Africa or the VOA, they would use the same satellite phone to talk.