Yes, sir, Mr Counsellor. I said he himself was present more than three times, but each time we went his chief security that was assigned with him by Charles Taylor - I call this man's name just now, Monie Captan. He was the one that we passed through to receive the things, but the three times I am talking about was the time Monie Captan went across the sea to unload things from the ship and he himself was present, I was present and all those who went with me were all there. And the boys unloaded my truck and from there he gave me something, I placed it in my pocket and then we left. That was over three/four times, but each time we went we passed through his security, Monie Captan.