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Mr Mansaray, I'm going to go through the various occasions when you have mentioned forced mining and the consequences of refusing to mine and may I start by pointing out that I was correct when I said there was nothing in the first interview about forced mining which indeed is why I had no note about it. There is in the first interview on pages 23 to 24 some - you did give the Prosecution some information about diamond mining activity but you don't mention forced mining there, you just talk about mining being carried out and who the diamonds were handed to, but you do not mention forced mining as far as I can see on those pages. I will obviously be corrected if I'm wrong.

In your second interview which took place in March of 2004 you do mention people being forced to mine and this is what you said - and again I'm missing out anything that is irrelevant or indeed anything I've already dealt with this morning. So I will summarise. I think I've dealt with this one this morning, I don't want to waste time over it. But, Mr Mansaray, in your second interview you talked about people being brought in and forced to mine, you talked about the mining base being fortified by armed men and that anyone who refused to partake in the forced mining would be executed and you were asked: "Do you know of any individual who was executed?" You said, "I heard about this information. Peleto, he used to kill people in the year 2000". You go on to say, "If you are caught, no mercy, you will die", followed by a question, "You will die, okay. Do you know of any specific person who lost his life in this way?" You say, "Well, I know some people but I can't remember their particular names" and at the end of that passage you say, "Amara Peleto used to play some havoc to people which were not good, like killing and torturing them and doing any other punishments to them" and you are asked, "Because they failed to mine?" You say, "To mine for the RUF and then some planned to escape with diamond so a lot of these reports came in". In other words you got reports of that but you didn't ever claim in that second interview that you had seen anyone executed.

In the third interview which is now January of 2006 you said:

"Forced mining was going on in Kailahun District. Patrick Bangura was appointed by Sam Bockarie to be mining commander there. I went there one time in 1998 and saw civilians working there. I spoke with Patrick Bangura and he told me the civilians were not paid for that work".

You mention mining going at Jojoima and that's all you say about that in the third interview.

The fourth interview is where you are then asked - paragraph 13 you were asked the passage that I started off this line of cross-examination with this morning and I'm not going to read it all over again, but you are asked in paragraph 13 to clarify comments about forced mining and the punishment of those who escaped or refused to participate. In other words you're asked to clarify those passages I've just read to you and you say: "He did see people being forced to mine but never saw anyone executed for trying to escape. He heard about killings and mutilations at mining sites" and you give an example, or you give two examples, and indeed in October of 2007 you're taken back to that passage and you correct the spelling of one of the places.

Then for the sake of completeness we will look at the other interviews where you talked about forced mining in October of 2007 and I'll get you the exact date. On 15 October 2007 you're again - you're in something called a prepping interview or prepping session and it says this: "Witness was asked about his involvement in diamond mining in Kono between 1998 and 2000". Now between 1998 and 2000 you were still in the IDU, weren't you?

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