When I was passing, going to my house, the people Sam Bockarie had killed, he had done the thing between three and five days before I got there, so I got the smell. I inhaled the smell when I was passing, the odour. But before I went there, when he killed those people I heard it from the radio communication that Sam Bockarie, his bodyguards and some other people had killed civilians from the guardroom, they took them from the guardroom and killed them. And I went and met my former commander Augustine Gbao. I asked him if he knew about the killing of the people and Augustine Gbao responded yes, he said he knew.