Hi-Rash gave me that copy. He came with another assistant. They came together at that meeting, when they summoned us to that meeting. We called him TTK. He too was an adjutant, but his name was Tamba T Karimu. We used to call him TTK for short. Both of them chaired that meeting for us. He was there, he too was there, Tamba himself. He used to call him TTK.