Well like the time we were in Bunumbu at target C, at that time RUF had captured Kono, phase 1. He, Captain Ben, and others were the ones who captured Kono, together with CO Mohamed, and Bunumbu is on the main road to go to Kono and that was the route they used to go to Kono and from Kono to go to Pendembu, or Kailahun. So when he was coming from Kono he would go through Bunumbu and he would meet us there. That was how we spoke to each other. That was how we met.