He said that when we went and captured the first group, that the lady, the other lady, yes. Before my father ran away they said - Teddy P said, "Don't worry, don't worry", because by that time they were both a bit happy, you know. They saw the cooperation, you know. Even when they say, "Catch all the chickens" everybody was cooperating and then he said, "Don't worry. I mean 'A' was not actually killed. She's alive."