Well, those communications would be done in a distant place in open terrain. The place was an open place. There was - normally that was where he installed the satellite phone, in an open place, and his bodyguards would be around him and they would discuss. After discussion he will come back and discuss it with either Issa Sesay, if Issa Sesay was present or around, or Eddie Kanneh. It was through those conversations that I would know whatever they had discussed on the satellite phone.