Nobody told me. As I'm sitting here, that's why I told you if I saw him because I never had known him. It was only today, because yesterday when I came here I did not know him, but when I came today now I know him. So I am saying that it was he who was responsible for the problems that were caused on us. He used our brothers to amputate our arms, so that's why I said he is the cause of everything that has happened to us.