I can't say verbatim everything, I mean, it was just basically a special envoy comes in, and normally they have a special message, and I really wanted to find out from Reverend Jackson what in the world is going on. Basically, that's what I want to find out. What in the world is going on that we cannot get America to think constructively about us? What can we do? How can we do it? What is expected? Generally, this is what we are talking about in that meeting.