Well again, I don't want to mislead these judges. I'm a little not too sure - I know that these two - we start something like a relief and then evolved into a structured foundation. But the monies - and I have forgotten how far apart they were. I think it was just a short time of starting something and somebody saying, "Well, look, structure it and put it into something like a foundation," then it gets structured. But these are not two organisations that are running simultaneous to each other, no. I don't remember it being that way, no.