Yes, when I came to Waterloo, I met him there. That was when Bockarie sent me to come and ask him to go and meet him in Buedu. But when I was ready to go, I asked him to go with me but he hide away from me. He hid away from me. But he told me at that time that they had been sprung from Pademba Road and that on their way retreating the guys were talking about the atrocities that they had committed in Freetown. He said, "Oh, these people, they burnt down Freetown. They killed so many people. They amputated people. So many people in Freetown." And I said, "Is that so?" He said, "Yes", and I said, "Okay."