Yes.

Yes, ma'am, I do.

Gbatala. They said, "We knew Gbatala, but we never knew how evil this place was", they said. So, during this time the guys started to say, "No, you guys are not coming from Gbatala. Nobody could go to Gbatala and come from there, because Gbatala is a notorious place. It ...

Yes, I am coming. They put us at one corner. We were sitting there in one corner. At this time we were not able to do anything. I could hardly walk because my feet - under my feet were swollen and my hands. I could not able to do anything with ...

They started beating him when he refused to receive us. They started beating and they were fighting, so the MPs and the ATU guys were fighting among themselves. So by then we have been outside, out of the car, and we were at the corner while the fighting was going ...

Military police, sorry.

The MP commander - the chief of that particular place by then he was the commander. That was how I learned it to know that he was the commander of that particular post, or cell, or something.

When they took us to BTC so we were out of the jeeps and the Chucky, Campare and the other ATUs, they went into the station like where the MPs were and in that building was where the cells were, so when they went inside they took us. So the ...

Barclay Training Centre, something like that.

Well, they took us to BTC instead of taking us to the beach to be killed. So they took us to BTC. When we reached BTC --

He was the then defence minister of Liberia.

Yes.

Daniel Chea.

Yes, he was one of them. He was standing behind the President and they were standing like this. He was very closer to him. The other side of the President was Campare who was standing there and Chucky was around, so I could able to see him, recognise him by ...

Yes, sir. There were more than four.

Yes, that's correct.

He was having some casual dress, some evening dress. He was not officially dressed with coat and tie or something, no.

Yeah, it was a compound. The building was fenced with high - there was a big gate and it was fenced right around. Inside you could see some of the securities around and you could hear the ocean.

It was late in the night, because we travelled from Gbatala, it was around in the evening when we left Gbatala to Monrovia. So before we could reach to Monrovia it was dark. I don't know, but it was late in the night, midnight or something.

After we were taken there.

Well, we were told it was Congo Town because - and that area when we were there we could hear the sea, the noise of the sea, and it was Congo Town. I never knew it was Congo Town before, but after we - they were taking us to the place, we ...

Yes, Congo Town was where the President was living, his residence in Monrovia.

BTC.

It was Mr Charles Taylor, ma'am.

The person named number 6 was a Liberian and he was the former ULIMO and a former police officer by then.

They are all Sierra Leoneans and we were all refugees.

That's correct.

The person named number 5. The person named against number 5 was the only person that they took from the pit and he was the only person that joined us and we were then three.

It was me and the person named against number 4 that made the escape, after the person number 6 was killed. So we were just two when this message came. So before they could take us to Monrovia they asked - Chucky asked his men to go and collect the other ...

We were three. It was me --

He said if we were to be killed the killing should have been done where we were coming from and they should take us to BTC so that they could get information from us.

Yeah, because he said they should get information from us.

No, he was not.

No, no. It was the defence minister. I could recognise him after - when they came to release us, that was the time. Because when I saw him when he uttered the word, so I knew he was Daniel Chea and when he came it was then that he introduced himself ...

Yes, sir.

Yes, sir.

Then he said, "Well, if you are refusing to say the truth they are going to take you guys to the beach and we kill you and they are not going to fire you, they are going to use the knife to cut your head." So after some time Campare ...

I answered, then my fellows gave the same answer. So we gave that answer that we are registered refugees and we do not know what he is talking about.

All three of us were Sierra Leonean refugees.

We were three.

Who refused to go and fight in our country when we are most needed. So we could say nothing. After some moments then he asked if we are the Kamajors that are sent to come and overthrow his government. So during this time of the first - second question I was ...

Mr Charles Taylor was asking us this question.

So when we reached Congo Town they opened the gates and Chucky and Campare, they were ahead of - they went inside the compound and they were directing the car inside. So when they went inside both of them - by then my own hood, the bag like or something that they ...

In Congo Town.

That's correct.

A military garrison in Monrovia. But before we could go to BTC.

BTC is Barclay Training Centre, the headquarter of the AFL. It was a barracks, a military barracks.

Yes.

I knew that after we were in BTC and when we were going there.

Then they took us to Monrovia. We went directly to the President's compound, Charles Taylor's compound in Monrovia in Congo Town.