The transcripts of the trial of Charles Taylor, former President of Liberia. More…
Yes.
Yes, ma'am.
Yes, sir. Yes, sir. It's a whole building and the restaurant is on one side and the sleeping places are on the other side, but it's the same building.
Okay. For instance, let's take it as this court. We have a court here. Let's say this is the restaurant and the rooms attached to it are the sleeping rooms, but in here as the restaurant people don't sleep there. But it's a place something - it ...
That church and that school is in Kakata, that is the Monrovia Highway around the Mandingo quarters.
I don't know. I used to see him. I always told you at the time I used to see him he always had a book in his hands, but I did not know who he was staying with and I never asked him, not a day.
They are two different towns.
The town, I mean Bong Mines, it's a common area, it is bigger than the other town that you're referring to. Bong Mines is a big town.
But Bong Mines is bigger than there.
Yes, that is the meaning, Konola. Konola. I used to hear that name at the time I was in Kakata. It was between Kakata and Gbarnga. That - it is in between those two places that we have that town, Konola.
Curnella [phon].
Konola? Repeat that language, Konola.
Between the two of them the family relationship was cordial. I never came across an argument between the two of them. I never saw that. Maybe it might have happened, but in my absence.
Yes, for that family we had two leaders, Sankoh and Charles Taylor. They were the leaders for that family that we had. They were controlling us.
From the beginning when I joined the RUF those of us who were trained, we were all brothers and even the women who were with us, we were all brothers and sisters and we had those who were ahead of us who controlled us and at that time they showed ...
No, sir. We did not return it. We took it to Buedu. The high command, Sam Bockarie, sent for us to take the money there so we took it there.
Yes, yes. Not all of them. Those who were captured. Those that they were able to capture at that time, they disciplined them. And some of them ran away, they escaped into Guinea.
It was NPFL.
Benjamin Yeaten.
At times when Sam Bockarie was there he used to call him, he used to do that.
Yes, it used to happen in Lofa. At the time the ULIMO tried to force their way to enter, so the Superman group, because they were hard fighters, they would call on them sometimes to go and fight there.
He was NPFL and he went to Sierra Leone to serve as a reinforcement.
Yes, sir. He was a Gbandi by tribe, a Liberian.
No, the place where Superman was was in the middle of the country, in the centre of the country. He was not close to a borderline. There was no other way for him to make contacts for ammunition, except when he will get up some days and then go and ...
Beside the time we were in Freetown, we did not get access for that because the areas where we were in our zone there weren't seas from which we could get that opportunity. We either got ammunition from the ULIMO that we bought or from Charles Taylor, but we ...
Repeat that question.
No, not a day that I saw that.
Yes. Because at first we were all together he used to get supplies from us, but when he went to the jungle, that is the Kabala axis, he purely depended on captured ammunition.
Gibril Massaquoi was in jail. He was in jail. He was left in jail in Pademba Road. So it was when they advanced on Freetown that they were set free from the jail and then he came back. But it was because it was Superman and others who were at ...
RUF.
What I mean, it's just like when a husband and wife will have some problem between the two of them, they will invite people to come and talk peace. So Superman and Issa had a problem and that one affected us, but later they came together and said well ...
Okay. Thereafter Issa Sesay went to - because it was Sam Bockarie who was in charge at that time, he went to him in Buedu and Sam Bockarie gave him ammunitions and he brought it to Kono jungle and we captured Kono.
It was Fitti-Fatta first that Superman and others ran away. In fact many people were injured from amongst us, so that's when Superman and his men went to Kabala and from there Issa Sesay went to Liberia and brought the ammunition and --
Fitti-Fatta operation.
He's from the north, Makeni.
Yes, sir.
The overall commander for all of us was Issa Sesay.
It was before Sankoh returned. It was before he returned. Those people had come. They were with us. Mosquito was there even before Sankoh returned. It was when Sankoh returned that Mosquito went back now I have - I can recall.
Issa Sesay was the one who was with me in Kono when those people came there. Sam Bockarie - I have forgotten the date now. He - I think he was with us in Buedu, but he was not with us in Kono.
Yes, that's the importance. I am sworn. Anything you swear to do you've sworn to your God to whom you pray and God is important.
Oath, I know it is oath. It is - I am sworn.
It was not a mislead. If I said I was not going to mention somebody's name, does that mean it is misleading? If I say for example I'm not going to mention your name here, does that mean that I'm misleading people? It was up to me ...
That's what I've told you, yes. I said it to myself that I was not going to mention his name.