The transcripts of the trial of Charles Taylor, former President of Liberia.
Thank you very much. Thank you.
Thank you very much.
I think you would know that in the press, because there was a big press conference. He didn't get on the train. I don't know if he was invited - I don't think he was invited.
No, he didn't.
Across also, because he was on the same side as me.
She was across from me. She sat across the table.
She was, but I guess she didn't feel that she wanted to be in the photo.
Because she wasn't a guest invited, like - she came because of me, so she got to meet Mr Mandela, which many people in the world want to meet until this day, because of me, so I shared the opportunity with her in inviting her to come. She wasn't ...
Yeah. There may be - there was one table, there couldn't have been no more than maximum 14 people at that dinner, and we were the guests, I guess the special guests, of the Blue Train and Nelson Mandela Children's Fund.
When we discussed it at breakfast, I think it was Mia Farrow that said there's no one else at that table that would give such a gift. So the assumption was made and I said, "Okay, I guess it was".
Yes, because he didn't actually give it to me himself, like you know, so --
There were security guards all over the grounds that I remember.
No, that's not correct. I'm --
It wasn't about the pebbles or stones themselves, it was about the way I was woken up.
Well, as I said before, I was there to raise funds for the Nelson Mandela Children's Fund. I didn't think it would have been honest of me to have kept them. I thought that the charity should benefit from them. I wouldn't have been there otherwise. I ...
Well, blood diamonds didn't exist in 1997, I understand.
Correct. And I'd heard about the term "blood diamonds" in like, what, 2003.
As I'm - yes, today, yes, obviously.
No, I was not aware.
The door to my room; I don't remember what floor I was on, but the door to my room.
To my room. The door to my room.
I really don't know. You'd have to speak to him about that.
No. I didn't ask for them back and --
You'd have to ask him.
I have no - once I gave them to Jeremy they were out of my hands. I didn't really care what he did with them, as long as he did something good is what I trusted him to do.
Correct. I only contacted him when you contacted my lawyers.
Correct, whatever I got - yeah.
I think because there was not enough time, as I said, because we got in in, like, I don't know - we got in the same day of the benefit, which was at night, I remember - I recall, in Cape Town, at the end of the train ride, so I ...
Not that I can remember. He may have said something to me, very possible, yes, but I don't remember what it was.
I don't recall him being horrified. Otherwise I don't think he would have taken them at all.
I don't know. Maybe. I don't know. You'd have to ask him.
I don't know. In South Africa.
No, I was not aware.
Correct, I remember.
Oh, it's either before or after the dinner, but I can't recall, it's so long ago. I don't know.
Yes, I do.
So far, no, I don't believe I have, but again, I've been speaking to my lawyers so many times on this it's possible I have. You'd have to ask them really.
Actually, I really don't know. You'd have to speak to my lawyers about that. It's possible but I don't - it's very - there's a huge pile of papers, about 60 or 70 stacks of pages, so for that - for me to answer you to that ...
And her brother.
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