Thank you too, Madam President.

No, the other one expired, so I attached the other to it.

We used to travel, so I used to put my passports together. I did not want it to get missing.

Yes.

I said the time we used to go to their home, they used to come there to us and I will see them discussing. I know them.

Yes, the times we used to go home I used to see them. They used to come and visit him.

Yes, he told me that they were his brothers. Yes, they were his brothers. He sent for them.

Yes, ma'am, and even if you declared that, that something was going on in the country and you liked it and you had little chance you could do that.

You know, that is the reason I told you that me too I wanted to commend the woman because she was doing well for us and at that time they brought the books, so that was the reason why I put it there. You know, if someone was a President ...

Yes, that was the only reason because I was now tired of hearing them and they continued to move my heart.

Yes.

All right.

Yes, and I did not even want to come here because the more it perpetrated my heart because if I and my children were still continuously hearing about these things because person who was taking care of us --

I said the reason I brought this press release out was because that kept on reminding me about the death of my husband and you know - and you know that a stigma was at my back looking at me, a young girl, and being that I was a widow now ...

Sorry, sorry, sorry.

The reason is, Madam President, because people were going around saying - talking about things, but if you ask them they will not even tell you the truth and if you asked them they will not even tell you that yes, I did it. And this man now came up and ...

Yes, I did not have idea. It was when Zigzag Marzah made the statement. I told you - you asked about a particular person and I said no, I was not in town at that time.

You know, if you saw anybody - you did not see anyone whose name I made mention of there.

Yes, please ask the question again.

Okay, thank you. It had been a rumour all around before - before --

Yes.

It was only Zigzag Marzah's own that I was aware of. But the other people, I was not in town so I did not know.

Yes.

It was one of the men, the Vahn. The Vahn man.

It was at the time he sent for me. He had said that he was weak. That was the time he sent for me before I went there with the people.

No, it was his own relatives who took him to the bush, at last what I saw, but for --

I said I was not in the bush.

They were his relatives. He sent for them to do the treatment.

No, they were his own people.

There were three, and I made mention of two. The people who were doing the medicinal business were three. I made mention of two but I did not recall the name of the other, the third one.

The correct one is because those were the people who went to do the herbal medicine and the people who went to do the medicine were the people who took him to the bush, so the security was just there. That was the reason I said that they were the ...

Yes, but I told you that the only thing they said that women were not allowed to go to the place but men could go there. It was only women who were not allowed. So at last he did say that he sent for me for someone to collect me ...

Yes.

Yes.

Yes, I told you that.

Yes, because they were men.

Securities followed them because they were all men. They only stopped women from going there.

Yes.

2000.

It was only one time.

It's May 23, 2000. May 18, 2000. It's August 14, 2000.

A passport.

Dogolea, Regina.

Yes, it's double.

I have already handed it over to the Court. This is the pass --

Yes.

Yes, it's okay. All right.

Good morning, Madam President.

Yes.

Yes.