I got you, my Lord.

Yes.

Yeah, good afternoon, ma'am.

Thank you, sir.

Yes.

No, I did not really know until later somebody called the name of Charles Ngebeh. But I don't know. I don't know if he's on the Prosecution side or the Defence side, because he is in Sierra Leone and I am in Liberia.

Well, what I mean here is that going against us in a sense that it is somebody that all of us have come together, we have been together and somebody looks at you and mentions things against your name of which you were not part of. I can even give ...

I am not talking about telling the truth about RUF crime. We are not against them telling the truth about RUF crimes, but at least let them say something straight. Not to bring in things that did not happen. So those that did not happen are the things that we ...

Not that he was against the trial, but, according to him, people were saying things that were not done.

Yes, I said Paul Veal, but that was the confirmed information that it was the direct person who gave me the information that I have said here. All the information that I have given here pertaining to Nya, Isaac was given to me by Paul Veal.

I told you I am referring to Paul Veal who gave me this information.

No. He doesn't even know that I was travelling to come to The Hague. No.

The reason for meeting Dopoe Menkarzon was that - it was not that I told him I was coming to The Hague. There is a company - an American company that I had applied to. It is about to start work, and Dopoe Menkarzon is one of their heads or one of ...

Yes, I remember, yes.

No.

No.

Yes, I saw it. They read it, yes.

Yes, I remember.

I told you earlier that Mike Lamin went with us. That is the Kailahun or Koindu group.

I said I cannot actually give you the actual commander, but I know that the senior man that was with this particular group was George Daniel apart from the leader himself, because the leader went there. George Daniel was the commander for that group, I believe, and we had other ...

The most senior person who went with that particular group was George Daniel, I believe. But I was not on that side, but I know these people went. But I cannot actually give you --

Both Liberian and Sierra Leonean vanguards.

Yes. I am saying that there were vanguards that went and they were of the two nationalities. I named these people because they were the names that I recollected quickly. That was why I named these names.

Yes. There were many commanders that went, vanguards that went. These vanguards --

Well, I can't remember, but you should ask me. If you should ask me, there are two nationalities that went through Bo Waterside, but I can't remember that question.

Of 1990.

I joined the NPFL in September.

Yes.

No.

No.

Yes, that's what I am seeing. I may not know the right spelling, but that is what I am seeing here, sir.

Van Damme? They asked if I am seeing this name Van Damme, and I can recall that there is a show that we watched on video - there was an actor called Van Damme. That's what I know of. But on this document, I am just seeing Van Damme. Yesterday ...

I don't know what you are talking about, getting Van Damme from. Where would I get Van Damme from?

You mean in this script?

Boston Flomo.

I said I only know Rambo.

Well, I know Rambo.

Yes, Van Damme. Van Damme.

MR ANYAH;

Okay. "... with his troops. Colonel Boston Flomo, alias Verndame, was instructed to meet with him with his troops, date 5 January 1999" --

I am seeing "Brigadier Goodial entered Freetown" and not "Boston Flomo".

21 January, yes.

The date I am seeing, to me it is "21 January 1999".

Yes, I am seeing it.

Yes, I am seeing it.

No. I am only seeing a signature, but I do not know whether it is that of Samuel Jabba or not.

No, there is nothing like that.

No.

Yes, I am seeing it, yes.

I do not know, but I am seeing here "From: Brigadier Issa Sesay".

No, not at all.