This Boyo activity, that is what is termed as the head man activity, they would secretly grab an individual and kill them and extract parts from your body for ritual purposes.

B-O-Y-O, I stand to be corrected anyway on the spelling.

I think it is B-O-Y-O, something like that. Yeah, that's it.

What I know is that, like the Marylanders were known, what they call the Boyo - these are secret killings - the Marylanders.

Yes, the Krahn.

Realistically, I do not know Zigzag Marzah's actual background, with the exception of what I have said.

Zigzag Marzah is of the Gio tribe of Liberia or also called Dan.

Yes.

I am saying that I remembered it. I have it copied in my head.

This story was not told by Marzah to me alone. Other people were there. But, you know, it had taken a long time. I just thought about it. I just can't remember the names of those who were there. But I copied the story.

Zigzag Marzah gave this information in, I believe in 1994 when he came from Grand Gedeh, within the Jungle Fire. It was then that he gave this information in Gbarnga, it was during the cause of the fall of Gbarnga, I believe so.

SATU was a military unit responsible for the protection of the Executive Mansion at the time for Samuel Doe.

I said, according to Zigzag Marzah, he was used by some top government officials during Samuel Doe's government to carry out secret killings, ritualistic killings for them. And then I said, as a result of that, they used, through the instrumentality of these government officials for whom Zigzag carried ...

Okay.

My answer is that was not the only killing that he participated in, according to he, himself, Zigzag Marzah. Zigzag Marzah said that he was involved in secret killings for some other top government official of the late President Doe's government. And then through their instrumentality, he was recommended ...

That was not the only killing, but he said that he was involved in secret killings for some high - higher officials in Doe government administration and through his instrumentality they were able --

According to Zigzag Marzah, he, Zigzag Marzah, was used by Gray D Allison to kill this police patrolman on the train track in Caldwell community.

What I started explaining at that time was that, according to Marzah, he took part - he participated in the killing - in a killing that took place I think in late 1985, that when the State was prosecuting Gray D Allison for the murder of a police patrolman on a train ...

Yes.

Yes.

Yes.

Good afternoon.

That is not the truth. The truth is - whatever I am saying to this Court is all the truth.

If I had reason to lie to these judges and to this Court I would have stood by my testimony that I gave to the Defence counsel in Monrovia. But I have reason to be truthful to these judges and to this Honourable Court to say the truth of what ...

This is the crowning truth of my testimony that I am giving to the judges.

-- by the President.

There is a way that I can say this these things happened without his knowledge, without the knowledge of Mr Taylor, and that is Benjamin Yeaten had earlier told us that - and all those close to him at the time - that this particular connection between him and Sam Bockarie and ...

There was no involvement. Mr Taylor had no involvement with the rebels in Sierra Leone, to my knowledge . And also you mention a few names, like Sampson, Sunlight, Jungle, Zigzag Marzah, who was one of the drivers, those people operated on Yeaten's instructions and only Yeaten knew about it ...

I do not know whether Mr Taylor had any involvement with the rebels in Sierra Leone. I do not know.

Because he had earlier said that he had a friend in Sierra Leone, whom I got to know that this friend was Sam Bockarie; and because he said that this communication between Sam Bockarie and himself, that is the radio communication, that he used Sunlight and Dew to make, were ...

I said that this was a secret communication provided by Benjamin Yeaten. Okay. They used to talk on the telephone. I was not standing close to them. Whenever he made telephone contacts with Sam Bockarie, I was not around. I was not around, so I did not know what they ...

The secret interactions between - the secret interactions between Benjamin Yeaten and Sam Bockarie was secret from the general public, it was secret from the Government of Liberia and it was also secret to the President.

I do not know of Mr Taylor having communication with the RUF. I do know of Benjamin Yeaten having secret communication with Sam Bockarie but I do not know - Sam Bockarie and Benjamin Yeaten were not doing it on behalf or in the interest of the government. He was doing ...

I - Ms Hollis, I do not know about the Government of Liberia led by President Taylor having communication, it be secret or open communication, with the RUF. I do not know.

I was not aware of that arrangement so I don't have comments about that. That was his testimony, as I said. I was not there. If the government had provided telephone, I don't know about it.

I do not know about a telephone but I overheard that the Government of Liberia provided the RUF this guesthouse and they also provided communication, radio communication.

I am not aware of any arrangement at Mendekoma. If he said that, then that's his own testimony, and I don't know. If he said it, then that's it. But I don't know. I am not aware of that. I have no knowledge of it.

I was not aware of that.

I do not know about communication from the Executive Mansion to Sam Bockarie, so I do not know whether there was secrecy or openness about it.

If he told the Court about this communication from the Executive Mansion, then I - that is - that was his testimony, but I do not know about it. I don't know.

To my knowledge I don't know of a radio communication from the Executive Mansion to the RUF.

I am not aware of that. I do not have any idea about what you're saying.

I don't know of Mr Taylor having communication to Sam Bockarie be it directly or indirectly.

If he told the Court that, then that is what he did, but I do not know.

If someone said that, then I do not know about it. It is not to my knowledge. Then it is up to the person to justify it. But to my knowledge, I do not know about President Taylor having radio contact with Sam Bockarie.

What I said is that you said, you're talking about communication. I said I do not know about Benjamin Yeaten having a special assignment to Sam Bockarie and I never heard or saw Mr Taylor speaking on the radio. So if anybody proposes that Mr Taylor spoke on the ...

I don't know.

I never saw Mr Taylor speaking on any other radio, any VHF radios before. I do not know whether he ever communicated with Sam Bockarie on the radio. I don't know. And if that - that proposition is wrong.

I do not know about Benjamin Yeaten - Benjamin Yeaten's special assignment to Sam Bockarie.

There was some secrecy about the communication between Benjamin Yeaten's radio, that is Base 1, and the RUF radio, that is Buedu.