Thank you, my Lord.

Thank you very much.

I don't believe that I saw the diamonds on the train. I just saw them the first night.

On the train when she gave it to Mr Ractliffe.

Yes.

A little small jewellery pouch with a tie.

I believe, yes, I saw the pouch. It was maroon.

The diamonds came in paper. It was scruffy so I remember it well. And the diamonds the next day were in a pouch, so I can only assume Naomi put them into a little jewellery pouch that she would have had.

Thank you.

I don't recall them, no.

Yes.

I don't know. Maybe I'm mistaken but the impression I got was that they had already gone but I don't know.

No.

I'm pretty certain that the men had already left.

I recall basically the minister was talking about the men had gone to collect the diamonds and it was how they were going to bring them back, it was - made it clear that it was quite a way away, and that it would all - it was all being arranged that ...

She opened the package in front of the two men and in front of myself and then she passed me the package and I looked at these curious stones.

Yeah.

Yes.

No, just a piece of paper.

A scruffy paper. They were later put in a pouch by Naomi but it was a scruffy piece of paper. I remember it very well because it was not normally how she would get a gift. Usually they are gift-wrapped, but it was a piece of paper.

Yes.

I don't remember.

No.

Yeah, I don't recall, I don't recall that.

I'm sorry, it's a long time ago and I just couldn't say if they did or they didn't.

Well, I sort of knew who they were because they had come from Charles Taylor to bring the diamonds to Naomi so I was aware who they were, otherwise they wouldn't have been in the house.

No, don't recall.

"What a long drive." And looked at the diamonds. "Would you like a Coca-Cola?" "Yes, thank you." I don't recall anything more than that.

Talked about the gift of the diamonds. It may have been 15 minutes. It wasn't very long.

I would say no longer than 20 minutes.

We were in the lounge room, and there were - there was a coffee table and two chairs opposite, there were four chairs and we were opposite them.

Thank you.

I have no idea. I know I had a mobile phone and Naomi Campbell had a mobile phone and I think it was quite easy to get a mobile phone in 1997.

No, but I know that the drinks party we had at the model house was on Thursday, the 5th, in the evening, after work.

I guess you read - I don't know how you work out the date, I don't use Facebook, but I can tell you they were the day - it was a Friday, the 6th of August.

How you work out the date?

I've known this story since 1997 and, you know, it's quite an amazing story. However, when I was told by my lawyer that Charles Taylor had been in The Hague in the war crimes trial, I realised it was very serious and the blood diamond issue had a ...

I don't recall.

He thought he was speaking to the Prosecution.

They just told him that the trial was over and that the - no more evidence could be submitted.

My lawyer told me and he thought that the trial was over, then he thought about it and decided that the conversation wasn't right and he tried again after the weekend and got put through to the right people eventually.

My lawyer attempted to contact the Prosecution and I think the first attempt he got the Defence who told him the trial was over. He then tried again on the Monday morning. I think he was unsuccessful. He tried again and he finally got Nick Koumjian.

It doesn't say that.

I'm sorry, could you repeat the question?

My lawyer told me that Charles Taylor was in a trial and had been for three years. It was sometime after I'd sent him the email that he urged me to let him ring the Prosecution, and he felt it could have some relevance and be important to the ...

Charles Taylor.

No.

Correct.

No.

No.