The transcripts of the trial of Charles Taylor, former President of Liberia. More…

  • [Open Session]

  • [The accused present]

  • [Upon commencing at 9.00 a.m.]

  • Good morning. I call upon the Prosecution to continue with the evidence of Ian Smillie. Is there a change in appearances?

  • Good morning Madam President. For the Defence, Madam President, we have here myself, Mr Courtenay Griffiths QC and Mr Andrew Cayley. At the moment, Madam President, my LiveNote doesn't seem to be working. I don't know if anybody else's is functioning. I gather that the system isn't yet on.

  • We don't have it anyway on the Bench.

  • Well, your Honour, I would like LiveNote to be on if at all possible as I resume my cross-examination of the witness.

  • Could I just request all parties involved that use LiveNote in future to make sure you are in the well of the Court at least five minutes before the proceedings begin so that you check all these things and if adjustments need to be done they are done before the Court begins.

  • Madam President, we endeavoured to do that. We have a difficulty on the Defence side in that our security passes do not allow us through several of the doors as a result of which our journey from our office on the second floor to this floor is a much more convoluted one than it ought to be. We ought to be able to come to the door adjacent to our office and straight up two flights of stairs outside this courtroom.

    We had a great deal of difficulty yesterday, a little less so today, but it's still a convoluted and unnecessarily convoluted journey.

  • Mr Munyard, we do appreciate the problem because we ourselves are having problems going through security, but I think what we have decided to do is we set out much earlier than we would otherwise need to thereby ensuring that we go through all the necessary security measures and are here in good time. I would therefore urge you to do the needful and make sure that you are in court at least five minutes before the proceeding begin to check on all - and of course I want to also ask Court Management, this is something that should be checked and verified before the proceedings begin otherwise we take unnecessary time out of the trial for these technicalities.

  • Madam President, we were here yesterday at a quarter to eight in order for LiveNote to be activated or configured, whatever the language is, and so I don't think we need to be reminded to be here in good time. We have been here in good time, with great respect.

    However, I don't know if the Court wishes to continue in the absence of LiveNote. I mean, having said what I have said earlier, I am willing to carry on. It's just rather difficult for anybody who wants to check what has been said previously.

  • The Court Manager, can something be done as the proceedings continue? Can something be done to restore LiveNote, because we can do without LiveNote. Yesterday the Bench did without LiveNote. We were hand recording. It's not ideal, but the proceedings must go on.

  • Your Honour, if the Court permits there is a technician at hand who can come in to assist Mr Munyard.

  • [Overlapping speakers] not to interrupt the proceedings. Must they come into the well of the Court? Can this not be rectified somewhere in other some other room?

  • Unfortunately each user has an individual log on and they have to be assisted in their individual position.

  • I think we will have to do this during the morning break. I am going to ask the indulgence of counsel to please continue without LiveNote and ensure that during the morning break, 10.30 to 11, any anomalies are rectified. That means you cannot begin tinkering with the computers now.

  • Madam President, I am grateful for the technical help. I can deal without LiveNote for the time being. It involved my having to log in which isn't necessarily an easy task. It sounds simple, but I have to remember different passwords and user names from the batch that I have already been allocated, most of which tell me they change every two weeks in any event. I will carry on, if I may.

  • Thank you, Mr Munyard. Okay, actually, I think when we adjourned yesterday Mr Munyard was cross-examining Mr Ian Smillie and therefore I invite you to continue. Mr Smillie, I remind you that you are still on oath and so please continue your testimony.