At one time, at the time when we were in Koindu during that fighting, I came. I took two days leave. At that time the pressure was a little less. It had taken two or three days and there was no bombardment, or shooting. I took two or three days leave from my commander, Harris, to go to my wife. So I came from Koindu in the evening and arrived at night, so in the morning, around 10 to 11, I went to the ground. Just like I said, we called Sam Bockarie's place the ground. So I went to the ground to him, to him Sam Bockarie, but when I went I came from the back. I used the back. The other securities were there, his wives, the other family members, the bodyguards were all at the back there cooking. I greeted them. They asked me about Koindu, they said, "How are the Guineans? They are not coming?", and I said, "No, mama, they are not coming." I said, "We have blocked them." I said, "They are not coming. We have set an ambush these days and we have killed some them and they have stopped."
So I passed through the living room and went into the veranda. When I went there I met him sitting on the veranda, he and some of the senior RUF vanguards. Shabado was standing close to him and I met Sam Bockarie counting some money, dollars. He had a list and had written some items on a list and had counted the money, and I just met him giving that money to Shabado telling him to go to the Guinea riverside because we were doing - we were trading with the Guineans on the other side of the river, by the Kailahun side. From Buedu there was a road going to Dia. There was another town that we called Dia that leads to the riverside. Some trading was - we were doing trading there with the Guineans, but it was only smuggle. The Guineans will come, they will bring goods across the river and they will put them in the canoe and they will cross over to us. We took along palm oil, cocoa, coffee and money, if you had money you will take it along. We would take palm oil along and we would exchange it. It was a barter system. We would sell to them and they would give us salt, clothing, Maggi or rice, if you had your palm oil. If you had money you will buy.
So, I met - he had prepared a list. He, Sam Bockarie, he had some dollar bills in his hand and he had given that to Shabado and he was telling Shabado to go quickly to the riverside and he told him that he was in urgent need of those things. He told him to go by Baiama because there was another road by Baiama which a short cut. He told him that he should go and buy those items quickly.
So I greeted Shabado and he told me, "Abor, you have met me en route." So I greeted Sam Bockarie, I gave him the courtesies and they were all concentrating on me because each time they saw somebody from Koindu they became concerned because they said Koindu was under pressure. They asked me how Koindu was, "Is it quiet now?" I said yes. I told them, "Yes, we set an ambush and they fell in the ambush and we killed and captured some arms from them." And he said, "Very good." He said, "Those men, that's what you should do. If you attack them you will not be able to overpower them. You should use ambushes."
So he was sitting, after we had spoken he had a white paper and he had --