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  • Good morning, Mr Witness.

  • Good morning, Mr Anyah.

  • Last Friday, 27 August when we closed in the afternoon, we had commenced a discussion about an RUF radio operator in Monrovia by the name of Memunatu Deen. Do you recall that?

  • You told us of how, in November or early December 1998, Jungle and Sampson brought Ms Deen and introduced her to Sunlight. Do you recall that?

  • Now, you also said on Friday that Ms Deen was, as far as Jungle said, residing at the home of Musa Cisse, yes?

  • At the time when Ms Deen was introduced to Sunlight, November to early December 1998, do you know for how long she had been in Liberia?

  • Do you know the purpose behind her presence in Liberia?

  • No, but I was told by Jungle that - I was told by Jungle that she was there at Yeaten's house to transmit and receive communication from the RUF. That was the reason why she was there.

  • On Friday, in response to my question about her presence at Base 1, you said - this is at page 47400 of Friday's transcript - you said, starting at line 10:

    "A. Yes, in November or early December of 1998, Jungle -

    Jungle brought, Jungle and Sampson, because these two

    people were always moving together during this time, they

    brought a lady, a lady, a girl called Memunatu Deen, and

    they introduced Memunatu Deen to Sunlight as the radio

    operator from the RUF who - whom they had brought to be

    giving or to be transmitting or receiving information from

    the RUF and then to some of the RUF businesspeople, like

    one Ibrahim, they used to call him General Ibrahim."

    Let's pause there. On Friday, in addition to saying that Ms Deen was to be transmitting or receiving information from the RUF, you also mentioned the RUF businesspeople, like General Ibrahim.

    Now, did Memunatu Deen transmit messages using Base 1 in connection with RUF businesspeople, that is at the time she was in Monrovia?

  • Yes. Memunatu Deen at that time used to receive information from the RUF and then from Mr Ibrahim in particular, because she called that name most of the time, in times of transmitting or receiving information. But the others, she only used to tell me that there were some other businesspeople, but this is what I know about it.

  • Let me ask my question another way: Was any of the information that Memunatu Deen transmitted connected to these RUF businesspeople, like General Ibrahim?

  • To respond to that, when the message comes, or when she was transmitting those messages, they were in code. I will hear the name, Mr Ibrahim. But after, she will only tell me that "I am leaving. I have received message from General Ibrahim but I am going to Pa Cisse's house," that is Mr Cisse, "to use the telephone." And she will also say that there were some other businesspeople. So that was how it used to happen.

  • You just indicated that had Ms Deen would say, "I have received message," the record says, "from General Ibrahim." Did you say "from" or "for" General Ibrahim?

  • I said "for", so if I said "from", then that was a mistake. I said "for" General Ibrahim.

  • This General Ibrahim, do you know whether he was present within Liberia during that time when these messages were being sent and received?

  • Do you know his nationality?

  • No. Besides his name, I don't know anything else about him.

  • You said the messages that Ms Deen transmitted, they were in code. Whose code were those messages in?

  • In the RUF code that she had in her possession.

  • Were you ever privy to those codes? That is, at some point in time, did you come to receive those codes or know them?

  • Yes. After a period of one month of her presence at Base 1, she gave a copy of the code that she was using to Sunlight and said, "In case I was absent and there was a message for me, you should then receive the message and keep it until my return."

  • You said she gave a copy of the code that she was using to Sunlight, and she did so in case messages came in her absence.

    Now, in the period of one month before Sunlight received these codes, was there ever an occasion where a message came for Memunatu and she was absent and Sunlight had to receive that message ?

  • Yes. Before turning the code over to Sunlight, I think there was - there were one or two occasions that Sunlight received a coded message from Sellay for Memunatu, and that was copied down as it came in, and then later turned over to Memunatu.

  • Was Sunlight able to comprehend or understand that message or messages that were received in the absence of Memunatu?

  • Not at all.

  • Was Memunatu, to your knowledge, assigned to Base 1?

  • I can say she was not assigned, but she used to come on a regular basis, on a regular basis, to receive or transmit messages?

  • When you say "a regular basis", can you give us some indication of the frequency of her appearance at Base 1? For example, in the course of a week, how often would she come to Base 1?

  • From November up until December, or late December, after she had been introduced to Sunlight at that time, she used to come almost every day of the week, and sometimes even on Sundays. She was regular from the start.

  • Did that frequency continue?

  • No. It did not continue. It stopped at some point in time.

  • Mr Witness, are you comfortable? Are you fine? Are you cold?

  • I'm okay for now.

  • Your Honour, the witness is requested not to lean close in to the microphone. He can speak from a sitting position, because then the audio is affected.

  • Mr Witness, did you understand what Madam Court Manager just said? You can sit up and just speak normally without leaning close to the microphone. Do you follow me?

  • Now, your last response, you said that it did not continue; this is in relation to the frequency of Ms Deen's visits to Base 1. You said it stopped at some point in time. At which point in time did her visits to Base 1 stop?

  • In 1999, I think in the middle of 1999, the radio was transferred from the initial room where it was within Yeaten's house to a small house outside Yeaten's fence. So when this radio was transferred outside Yeaten's house, that was when her visits became less frequent.

  • Do you know why her visits became less frequent in the middle of 1999?

  • Yes, and I said 1999. Do you know why her visits became less frequent at that point in time?

  • No, no, no. I don't know.

  • When you say "less frequent", again using the time period of a week as an example, in the middle of 1999, how often would Ms Deen come to Base 1 during the period of, say, a week?

  • In fact, during a one-month period, she will not come, not at all, sometimes even for a whole month.

  • Did there come a time when her visits stopped completely and she never came again?

  • In what year and in what month did that happen?

  • It was, I think, at the end of '99, I think within that same period that her visits became less frequent, I - after some point, I definitely stopped seeing her altogether, especially at the time the LURD war started.

  • We will come to the LURD war, but can you tell us at this moment when that war started, what year and what month, if you recall?

  • Okay. A permission please. Would you please allow me to make a correction regarding my testimony last week before answering to this question?

  • Okay. The first correction has to do with the requisition of food that I spoke about last week, that Jungle received when Jungle spoke to Sam Bockarie during the last or first two visits. He then told me that Sam said he should go to Musa Cisse and Ben to help him with food because they were running out of food.

    The correction here is that the requisition of food was made once, and it was not made directly by Sam Bockarie. It was made by Sam Bockarie through Sellay, his operator, to Jungle. So I had made a mistake when I said it happened two times.

    And the second one has to do with my knowing Mortiga, or hearing him or speaking to him prior to Sam Bockarie's second visit. I mistook him for another operator. It was not Mortiga that I spoke to at that time. It was an operator by the name of Elevation. So that is to say I did not speak with Mortiga before his visit to Liberia. Those are the corrections I wished to make.

  • Now, besides this correction in relation to Mortiga, that you did not speak with him before Mortiga visited Liberia, everything else you told us about Mortiga on --

  • Just a moment please, Mr Anyah. I thought it was before Sam Bockarie visited Liberia. Did I mishear that?

  • Well, your Honour, Justice Doherty, on Friday the witness told us Mortiga visited Liberia, and I believe the correction today is that the witness is saying he never spoke to Mortiga on the radio. Because on Friday he did tell us he spoke with Mortiga on the radio from Sierra Leone.

  • Yes, so you see the answer - the correction is somewhat confusing. He says, "I didn't speak to him prior to Sam Bockarie's second visit," and then later on he says, "Prior to his visit." The "his", who is it? Is it Mortiga or Sam Bockarie? That's basically what I find somewhat confusing.

  • I can ask the witness.

  • Mr Witness, on Friday you spoke of Mortiga visiting Base 1 when Mortiga was in Monrovia. Today you have attempted to correct something you said on Friday. You told us you never spoke to Mortiga.

    Now, in relation to what time frame are you talking about when you say you never spoke to Mortiga, and in relation to whose visit to Liberia are you speaking of?

  • Okay, thank you. When I said prior to his visit to Liberia, I am talking about Mortiga, Mortiga's visit to Liberia at the time he came along with Sam Bockarie, during Sam Bockarie's second visit.

  • I wonder if that satisfies your Honour.

  • Yes, that is clear now, much clearer.

  • Mr Witness, going back to my question. Besides this correction you've made in relation to Mortiga, is there anything you wish to correct that you said on Friday regarding Mortiga, or is this the extent of your correction regarding Mortiga?

  • What does "no" mean?

  • I mean that every other thing I said about Mortiga, that was during Sam Bockarie's second visit when he came with him, is that I was introduced to Mortiga, along with others, and that after the introduction Mortiga was brought to Base 1 and I saw him at Base 1, and he brought communication that he transmitted in code. And then Sunlight took him to his house to have lunch together. So, those are all correct.

  • Thank you, Mr Witness. Now, going back to my question about LURD. When did the war with LURD start, as in what year, what month, if you recall?

  • The LURD war started in 1999 but I do not recall the year.

  • Mr Witness, you just said it started in 1999 and then you said you don't recall the year. What do you mean?

  • Oh, sorry. I do not remember the month, but that it started in the year 1999, but I do not remember the month.

  • Thank you, Mr Witness. We will come back to the LURD war. Let's continue with Memunatu Deen. You said Memunatu Deen gave the RUF codes to Sunlight. Do you know whether Memunatu Deen had access to the Government of Liberia radio codes while she visited Base 1?

  • Memunatu never had access to the Government of Liberia code when she visited Base 1. She never had it.

  • Besides her use of the radio at Base 1, do you know whether Memunatu Deen used any other radios belonging to the Government of Liberia?

  • No. I think I told you earlier that Memunatu Deen's presence in Liberia was something undercover. It was something undercover. The Government of Liberia knew nothing about it, but that it was something between Musa Cisse, Ben, Sampson and Jungle who brought her. So she could not have had in her possession the codes of the Government of Liberia because the government did not know anything about her presence in Liberia.

  • To your knowledge, were any of the messages that Ms Deen transmitted concerned with the business of the Government of Liberia?

  • No. Messages that Ms Deen transmitted and received were not in connection with the Government of Liberia. And, even Benjamin Yeaten himself, it was only in the interests of Sam Bockarie and the RUF.

  • When you made reference to Benjamin Yeaten himself, in relation to the nature of the communications by Memunatu Deen, what are you saying? Were they, the messages, connected with Benjamin Yeaten?

  • What I am saying is that all the messages she used to transmit from Liberia to Sierra Leone and received from Sierra Leone to her in Liberia were not connected with Benjamin Yeaten, nor the government. But they were strictly in the interests of Sam Bockarie.

  • Did I hear you say earlier, Mr Witness, that all these messages were in a code that you didn't understand?

  • Yes. Messages that she transmitted or received were all coded and I did not understand. You know, when the message is coded, until it is decoded even the operator receiving the message will not understand it until it's been decoded.

  • So then how do you know that the messages she used to receive and send had nothing to do with the Government of Liberia? How can you swear by that?

  • Yes, that is after receiving the message she would inform me that, oh - she will - she will tell {redacted} that, "I am going to Pa Cisse's house to use his telephone, I have a message for Mr Ibrahim," or, "I have a message for some of Sam's business partners."

  • Madam Court Manager, if you look at line 23, the name that appears after the phrase "she will tell", please redact that name.

  • Thank you, Madam President.

  • Mr Witness, you were at Base 1 inside the home of Benjamin Yeaten. You have told us that Ms Deen would receive coded messages and that it was only after a month of her coming to Base 1 that she shared the RUF code with Sunlight. Before she shared the RUF code with Sunlight, did you ever hear her have any discussions with Benjamin Yeaten about messages she received from Sierra Leone?

  • No, but whenever she came she will speak with Benjamin Yeaten. They will sit and discuss. But when she received messages she will just leave and go to where she was staying and she will inform me that I am just from the radio room and that I am going to transmit the message on the telephone. So I never saw her discussing a message or messages with Benjamin Yeaten.

  • You said she will speak with Benjamin, Benjamin Yeaten, they will sit and discuss. What sorts of things did Ms Deen and Benjamin Yeaten discuss?

  • The discussion was - the discussion was about, like Memuna, or even Ben, for instance, Benjamin would ask when he sees Memuna, "How are you doing? I haven't seen you for some time now." She will say, "Oh, I have been coming here but sometimes I don't meet you." So it was just about friendship or common relationship.

  • Thank you, Mr Witness. Were any of the messages that were either transmitted through Base 1 to the RUF at the time of Ms Deen's presence at Base 1, or received, written down in any book or log?

  • Not at all.

  • From your time at Base 1 was it the case that any messages during the period of time when you were there were ever written down? I am not just speaking about messages communicated to Buedu, I am speaking about any messages, whether involving the RUF or not?

  • When I was there I observed that messages from the Government of Liberia were written down in a notebook for records. Those were messages that were written down. Those were messages from the Government of Liberia.

  • Do you know where those notebooks are today?

  • After the President left the country and few days later Benjamin Yeaten also left the country, the entire radio room outside Benjamin Yeaten's fence was ransacked by a group of armed men and all the documents that were there, they burned them down and they took away the radio and everything was destroyed.

  • When you refer to the President leaving the country, which President are you referring to?

  • I am referring to President Taylor, when he left the country. After he had left power and turned over the presidency to President Blah and he left Liberia for Nigeria.

  • And in what year and what month did that happen, if you recall?

  • I am talking about 2003, but the destruction of the documents happened in September of 2003.

  • You have referred more than once today about Memunatu Deen indicating that she was going to Musa Cisse's house to use the telephone. Do you know where she was calling when she indicated she was going to use the telephone?

  • Absolutely not.

  • Do you know to whom she intended to call when she indicated she was going to use the telephone?

  • Apart from the name, Mr Ibrahim, or General Ibrahim, I did not know who else she intended to call at the time.

  • This was in late 1998. Can you tell us whether, at that time, Liberia had cellular or mobile telephones in use within the country?

  • I did not get your question.

  • Were there mobile or cell phones being used in Liberia in late 1998?

  • No, there were no mobiles, no cell phones in use at the time.

  • Do you know what sort of telephone Musa Cisse had at his home, at his residence?

  • You mentioned last week while testifying that there was a radio at Musa Cisse's house, a long-range radio. You referred to its code name as Visa, V-I-S-A. Do you know whether Memunatu Deen made use of that radio at Musa Cisse's house?

  • No.

  • Is that no, he doesn't know or no, that Memunatu Deen did not make use of the radio?

  • That is I don't know whether she used the radio.

  • Do you know why Memunatu Deen chose to come to Base 1 to use that radio as opposed to the radio at Musa Cisse's house?

  • She did not tell me why she did not use the radio at Musa Cisse's house, but, by my judgment, I believe that the radio at Musa Cisse's house, it sometimes had low signal or low clarity and I want to believe that it was because Musa Cisse used to receive a lot of guests, like diplomats, or some other government officials in Liberia, always used to visit him. And maybe he did not want those people to know about any such communication. And, furthermore, he had a lot of people with him, family members, and other people living with him and working for him in his house. So I believe that could have been the reason, even though she did not tell me the reason why she did not use the radio but, instead, decided to be using this one. And also, I think it was an arrangement between Musa and Ben.

  • Yes, that was to be my next question. You have told us of Memunatu Deen exchanging casual greetings with Benjamin Yeaten at Base 1. Is it the case then that Memunatu Deen's use of Base 1 was with the knowledge and consent of Benjamin Yeaten?

  • Yes, I can say so because Benjamin Yeaten had authorised or instructed Sunlight earlier that he should give these people access to the radio. That meant Memuna and Jungle, that they should have access to the radio at any time they came to use the radio. Yes, it was to his knowledge.

  • How about the President of Liberia, Charles Taylor? Do you know whether the Liberian President was aware that Memunatu Deen was using Base 1 to transmit messages to the RUF?

  • Mr Anyah, I think I had told you earlier, I think some two days back, that Benjamin Yeaten told Sunlight that this connection - this connection between him, Benjamin and Sam Bockarie, was totally, absolutely not to the knowledge of the President. So - and that the Government of Liberia did not know anything about Memuna's use of the radio at Ben's house.

  • Now, one more question about Memunatu Deen. To your knowledge, was she married at the time she used to come to Base 1?

  • Memunatu had a boyfriend but, you know, in Africa, when a girl and a man live together or are in a relationship for two or three months, then they are considered husband and wife. And she had her boyfriend, whom she considered as her husband. I don't know where they met, but the arrangement was that she had a boyfriend.

  • Do you know the name of her boyfriend?

  • Yes. He was called Osman Tolo.

  • Madam President, I believe that name is on the record but perhaps not as pronounced by the witness.

  • Shall I ask him to spell it? Mr witnesses, can you spell Osman Tolo for us.

  • Let me try, Osman - I think it is O-S-M-A-N, Osman. Then Tolo is T-O-L-O. I stand to be corrected. I don't know.

  • That appears to be the spelling we have on the record, Madam President.

  • This person you refer to as Osman Tolo, the boyfriend of Memunatu Deen, was he also present in Monrovia when Ms Deen was there?

  • He was not there when Memunatu was there but I did see him after Sam Bockarie - Sam Bockarie's final trip to Liberia in late 1999. He came along with Sam Bockarie.

  • What nationality is Osman Tolo?

  • A Sierra Leonean.

  • Do you know whether or not he was a member of the RUF?

  • Yes. I was told he was one of the radio operators for the RUF.

  • Thank you, Mr Witness. Now, Memunatu came to Base 1 early December or November 1998. We are now moving into 1999. Let's start with the month of January.

    While you were at Base 1, in January of 1999, did you hear any news about what was happening in Sierra Leone?

  • Yes. While I was at Base 1 or at Ben's house at that time, I heard a news about Sierra Leone in January, I think on January 7th I heard over the BBC that the rebels had attacked Freetown and I monitored that from Ben's vehicle that was parked, and it was programmed on the BBC and the news was broadcast on the BBC.

  • Where were you physically when you heard this BBC broadcast through Yeaten's vehicle?

  • I was in Ben's yard.

  • Where was Benjamin Yeaten at that time?

  • At this time Benjamin Yeaten was also within his fence and his jeep was open and he was also monitoring the news on the BBC as well.

  • You said the news was to the effect that the rebels had attacked Freetown. Do you know which rebels had attacked Freetown?

  • No, they only said a rebel invasion into Freetown. I did not know which rebels.

  • Did Benjamin Yeaten listen to this broadcast that you were listening to?

  • Yes. I said he was listening to the broadcast from his jeep.

  • Were you in a position to observe Benjamin Yeaten's reaction to the news he was listening to?

  • Yes. I saw him - I saw him shouting. I said, "Oh, when did this happen? Who did this?" So I did not know - he did not know whether it was true. So it was like a surprise to him.

  • Was it the witness who was saying I said, "Oh, when did this happen" or was it Benjamin Yeaten?

  • Mr Witness, did you understand the question: Those remarks that you have just referred to, when you said I saw him, I saw him shouting, I said, "Oh, when did this happen?" Who was making those statements?

  • That was Benjamin Yeaten's expression.

  • How would you describe those expressions or reactions to the news on the BBC?

  • It was like a shock, like something that was a surprise to him. Actually, it was like something he - that was surprising to him, like the first time of him hearing such a news.

  • In the days leading up to January 7, when you heard this BBC broadcast, I am referring to January 3, 4, 5, 6 and the like, was there any radio communication from Base 1 by Jungle to the RUF?

  • How about through Memunatu Deen? Did she transmit any messages from Base 1 in the days leading up to 7 January 1999 to the RUF?

  • In January of 1999, I think actually I heard that Memunatu had travelled to Sierra Leone - or that she was not in Monrovia, yes.

  • Do you know whether the persons you referred to last week as the transporters of supplies to the RUF - I am referring now to Jungle, you called him a buying officer, Sampson and others - do you know whether they took any trips to Sierra Leone in the week or so before January 7, 1999?

  • No, I don't know about any trip that they made in January of 1999.

  • Let me ask you more bluntly: Do you know whether Benjamin Yeaten sent any ammunition to the RUF in the weeks leading up to the January invasion of Freetown by the rebels?

  • When you say "no", is it that you do not know or he did not send, which is it?

  • When I said no it means that, one, I never saw such a transaction and that the ammunition that I made mention here on Friday were ammunition that he sold immediately after Sam Bockarie's first visit to Monrovia in 1998. And since then, up to the end of 1998 or early 1999, there was no trip made by Sampson or Jungle - or that I did not see anybody at that time actually.

  • How about personnel and manpower assistance, do you know whether Benjamin Yeaten provided any assistance in the nature of manpower personnel to the RUF around the time you heard about the invasion of Freetown in January 1999?

  • I don't know anything about that, and also, he did not send any manpower to Freetown.

  • Were there any radio messages from Buedu or any RUF radio operator to Base 1 around January 5, 6 or 7 of 1999?

  • There was no radio contact in or around January, let me say in the whole of January, because I told you that Memuna was no longer coming and I heard that she was not in Monrovia and those operators --

  • Your Honours, could the witness be asked to slow down and continue where I stopped?

  • The interpreter is having some difficulty until keeping up with you. Just slow down a little bit. Let me remind you where you were. You said, "Because he told us that Memunatu was no longer coming," and you went on to say, "I heard that she was not in Monrovia and those operators," you mentioned Sunlight and another name. What was the other name you mentioned?

  • I mentioned Dew, that is D-E-W. They were now on the government frequency. They were not in contact with the RUF. So definitely there was no radio contact with the RUF in January from Base 1.

  • January of which year?

  • In January of 1999, there was no radio contact.

  • Who is the radio operator Dew that you just referred to?

  • This radio operator Dew is a Liberian and also an SSS personnel who was later recommended by Sunlight to director Yeaten, that he should come over and assist him because Sunlight alone was finding it difficult to be by the radio all day.

  • In what year, what month, did Dew commence working at Base 1?

  • I do not actually recall, but I think it was late December or early '99.

  • Late December of what year?

  • Late December of 1998 or early 1999.

  • Where was Dew posted at before he commenced work at Base 1?

  • Dew was assigned in Gbarnga before coming to Base 1.

  • When you say "assigned in Gbarnga", what functions did he perform while assigned in Gbarnga?

  • He was assigned in Gbarnga as SSS radio operator.

  • Now, going back to the events of January 1999, to your knowledge, did Benjamin Yeaten ever make any trips to Sierra Leone in that month of January 1999?

  • I think in the entire January to February, Benjamin was in town. You know, before the LURD war, Benjamin was always in Monrovia.

  • In January of 1999, when you heard these BBC broadcasts about Sierra Leone, had the war with LURD commenced in Liberia?

  • I don't think so.

  • You mentioned earlier in your testimony today that the radio that was inside Benjamin Yeaten's house was moved to a small building outside the fence of the premises of Benjamin Yeaten. Do you recall saying that today?

  • Why was it necessary to move the radio from within Benjamin Yeaten's house to this house outside his fence?

  • Okay. The reason was that even though Benjamin had told Sunlight and Dew, especially Sunlight, from the very beginning of the radio there that he, Benjamin Yeaten, did not want - did not want to see any other person in the radio room, with the exception of the radio operator. And also, he said that was his private residence and that was his private house, and he did not want any other person there. But during this time, like I said, there was no telephone communication as it is today in Liberia, and the only means of communication across the country was the VHF radio where other families could connect with each other, so as in --

  • Your Honours, could the witness be asked again to slow down.

  • Again, you're going slightly too fast for the interpreters. Just bear that in mind as you give your answers. Let's try and pick up where you were no longer discernible.

    You said, "And the only means of communication across the country was the VHF radio where other families could connect with each other." Can you continue from there?

  • Yes, okay. And the only means of communication across Liberia where other families could connect each other, in terms of communication, was the VHF radio. So, in Ben's absence, either Sunlight or Dew would permit other people who would want to get in contact with their families outside Monrovia, especially in the rural areas, to use the radio. But when Ben discovered that, he became very angry with Sunlight and he said that he was now making his house to become overcrowded, so he became angry. He therefore transferred the radio outside of his compound into that building that was outside the fence.

  • Who was making whose house to become overcrowded?

  • Benjamin Yeaten's radio operator. According to Benjamin Yeaten, his radio operators were now making his house, that is Benjamin Yeaten's house, overcrowded with other people. So he was not pleased with that .

  • Those persons you referred to as "other people" who would want to get in contact with their families, those other people, were they civilians or were they military people?

  • I am talking about both civilians and military people.

  • Those other people, military and civilian, that Sunlight and Dew permitted to use the radio at Base 1, the communications that they made, were they connected with the Government of Liberia or were they personal in nature?

  • I am talking about family issues. They were not connected to any government issues.

  • Thank you, Mr Witness. On Tuesday last week, 24 August, you testified that Mr Taylor moved to White Flower in January of 1999. This is at page 47024 of the transcript from the 24th. Do you recall telling us that?

  • When President Taylor moved to White Flower, can you indicate for us whether or not there was a radio within White Flower belonging to the Government of Liberia?

  • There was no radio within White Flower.

  • Was there a radio belonging to the Government of Liberia in the vicinity of White Flower, that is near White Flower?

  • That's correct. There is a building, because the building has not been destroyed, next to White Flower which the SSS was using as their office, and this building had a communication set which belonged to the SSS.

  • When you say it had a communication set, what sort of communication set did it have?

  • This radio had both - this building had both a VHF radio, that is the very high frequency radio, and the UHF, which is the short-range set that controlled the walkie-talkies.

  • Did either the VHF or very high frequency radio or the short-range set have radio call signs or names?

  • Yes, they had call signs.

  • What was the call sign for the VHF radio?

  • The call sign for both the VHF and that of the UHF was Electron.

  • You recall mentioning before that when President Taylor resided near the German embassy, in an SSS security booth right outside the fence of that residence, there was a radio with the call sign Electron. Do you remember telling us that last week?

  • What happened to that radio with the call sign Electron at the time President Taylor had moved to White Flower and at the SSS office next to White Flower there was the radio you now referred to as Electron?

  • This radio that was at Taylor's house near the German embassy that I spoke about last week, was the same radio that had been transferred now to the building next to White Flower, with the same call sign, Electron.

  • Now, this building next to White Flower, you referred to it as the place where the SSS was using as their office. Did that building serve any other purpose besides serving as the office of the SSS?

  • What other purpose or purposes did it serve?

  • This building had a warehouse where arms and ammunition were being kept for the use of the Special Security Services, that is the SSS, to protect the President; and also arms and ammunition for the ATU were also kept in that warehouse, along with food and other things, like clothing, footwear and other foodstuff.

  • What is the ATU?

  • The ATU is the Anti-Terrorist Unit.

  • Now, you said these supplies, arms and ammunition, were being kept for the use of the SSS to protect the President. You said the ATU also kept arms and ammunition in the same warehouse, as well as food and other things. Who had access to that warehouse, as far as you know?

  • The keys to this particular warehouse were kept by a man called Kai.

  • Can you spell that name for us?

  • Kai kept the keys to the warehouse. Was it only Kai who had access to the warehouse?

  • Kai kept the key to the warehouse but the SSS director, Benjamin Yeaten, could enter this warehouse at any time he needed supplies - food or ammunition. He would order Kai to open this warehouse at any time that he needed it for security operations.

  • Besides this warehouse, were there other locations in the vicinity of White Flower, let's just say Congo Town, where the SSS kept arms or ammunition?

  • Not to my knowledge.

  • Now, let's consider Benjamin Yeaten's house. We're now in January of 1999, or thereabouts. You have told us of another radio operator working with Sunlight, somebody called Dew. You told us of how Memunatu started using the facilities at Base 1 in late 1998. In the year 1999, besides Memunatu, were there any other radio operators from the RUF that were brought to Base 1 to use the radio?

  • Yes.

  • Which radio operator or operators from the RUF came to Base 1 in 1999?

  • In 1999 there was a female operator of the RUF called Seibatu Jusu, Seibatu Jusu. She was brought by Jungle to work along with Memunatu Deen for the RUF but when she was brought to Base 1, Benjamin Yeaten refused her, rejected her and she was taken back by Jungle to Sierra Leone. She did not work or even use the radio at all because she was rejected.

  • Madam President, I believe that name may have been on the record before.

  • Do you know what purpose Jungle brought this RUF radio operator, Seibatu Jusu, to Base 1?

  • He said that he had brought Seibatu to assist Memunatu, in terms of radio communication.

  • And do you know why she was rejected by Benjamin Yeaten?

  • Had you ever seen this person, Seibatu, before when she was brought by Jungle to Base 1?

  • I had never seen her before.

  • Did you see her again after the time Jungle brought her to Base 1?

  • When did you next see her?

  • I saw her when Sam Bockarie finally returned to Liberia in late 1999. She came along with Sam Bockarie.

  • The person you referred to as Dew, can you give us that person's real name?

  • Yes, I can give his real name but could that be on a piece of paper or in a closed session?

  • We object to that. There has been no basis that this should be anything other than open session.

  • What exactly are you objecting to, the fact that the name could be written on a piece of paper?

  • The name will not be given in open session.

  • That depends on why the witness has requested to write the name on a piece of paper rather than to call it out publicly.

    Mr Witness, why do you want the name written on a piece of paper?

  • For the security of both Dew and Sunlight in Monrovia, because before I could come here or even meet the Defence lawyer in Liberia, these people, according to security information, they were being hunted by other people, unknown people to either be arrested or what have you, I don't know. So if I call out his name, they don't know him by his name but they know him by his code Dew, by most people, as well as Sunlight.

  • Madam President, in the circumstances I would apply, as requested by the witness, that that name be written on a piece of paper.

  • We grant the application and the witness will be given a piece of paper because we are of the view that the witness is apprehensive of his own personal security back home.

  • Thank you, Madam President.

  • Mr Witness, can you write the name of Dew, and next to, it in parenthesis, write the name Dew, so we know it is the same person, and then can you sign and date the bottom of that piece of paper. Today is 30 August 2010.

  • Madam President, can I inquire if your Honours have difficulty deciphering what has been written because I can ask the witness to clarify with bolder letters.

  • Indeed, we are having some difficulty with one of the names.

  • Mr Witness, can you take back the sheet of paper. With respect to the last person's name, can you write in clearer names the last name?

  • Okay.

  • And can you write your DCT number at the bottom please, DCT-008.

  • Can I rewrite it below?

  • Madam President, may I ask that that document be marked for identification, and at the appropriate time, we will move to have it admitted confidential.

  • This is a document on which the witness has written the name of an operator known as Dew. That is MFI-1, it is marked MFI-1 and will remain confidential.

  • Thank you, Madam President. May I inquire from your Honour, last week there was one document we had marked for identification, and I think the MFI in the 30s, or thereabouts.

  • It was MFI-33.

  • Thank you, Madam President.

  • Mr Witness, 1999, Benjamin Yeaten's house, the radio, Base 1. You have told us of a lady called Seibatu Jusu from the RUF, besides Ms Jusu, was there any other radio operator from the RUF sent to use Base 1?

  • No, besides Seibatu.

  • With respect to Government of Liberia radio operators, besides Dew, was there any additional radio operator that came and joined Sunlight and Dew at Base 1 in 1999?

  • Yes.

  • What is that radio operator's name?

  • Her code is Romeo Tango.

  • Do you know the name of that radio operator?

  • Are you in a position to say that name in open session?

  • No. I can do it in like manner like I did with Dew.

  • Perhaps the witness could be given the same piece of paper to write - sorry, Ms Hollis?

  • We would note the Prosecution has the same objection to this name not being given in open session.

  • Mr Witness, what are the reasons for your wanting to write this person's names confidentially?

  • It is for security reasons, for my own security and their security.

  • Very well. I was going suggest that the witness be given the same paper, but it is up to you, Mr Anyah. What do you want to do?

  • Yes. We could use the same piece of paper. I would just ask that he draw a line to demarcate the portion dealing with Dew and this bottom portion referring to Romeo Tango.

  • Very well. MFI-1 will be passed back to the witness.

  • Thank you, Madam President.

  • Mr Witness, as before, write out clearly - print out clearly the name.

  • May I proceed, Madam President?

  • Thank you.

  • Mr Witness, this radio operator that you refer to as Romeo Tango, when did she or he start working at Base 1?

  • She started working at Base 1 in 1999 during the LURD invasion in Lofa County in Liberia. That was where she was recruited as a radio operator by Jungle Fire. Later she was brought down to Monrovia by Ben and was in the radio room at Base 1.

  • Besides Romeo Tango, in all of 1991, did anybody else join Sunlight and Dew as radio operators at Base 1?

  • Did I hear you say 1991?

  • I hope I said 1999, but let me ask the question again. Besides Sunlight, Dew and Romeo Tango, was there any other Government of Liberia operator working at Base 1 in 1999?

  • You have referred to the LURD invasion. Who is LURD?

  • LURD was the rebel outfit belonging to Sekou Damate Conneh, which attacked Liberia during that time. I think they called them Liberians United for --

  • Your Honour, can he repeat the meaning of the acronym slowly?

  • Mr Witness, just speak slowly. You said something about what the acronym LURD means. What does the acronym LURD stand for, if you know?

  • L is Liberian; U is United; R is Reconciliation; and D, Democracy: Liberians United for Reconciliation and Democracy, of Sekou Damate Conneh.

  • Madam President, that name is on the record.

  • This fellow, Sekou Damate Conneh, what is his nationality?

  • He said he is a Liberian.

  • From where or which country did LURD attack Liberia?

  • LURD attacked Liberia from Lofa County. You mean which country or county?

  • Let's do it one at a time. From which country did LURD attack Liberia?

  • LURD attacked Liberia from Guinea, the Republic of Guinea.

  • In which county or district of Liberia did LURD first attack?

  • LURD attacked in Lofa County, sometime in Voinjama district and Kolahun district. The attack was sometimes here and there from the beginning.

  • The persons who were members of LURD, what nationality were they?

  • This has just been drawn to my attention. It is at page 22 of - sorry, at page 37, line 22. It's not Kailahun District, it's Kolahun district.

  • Yes, your Honours. I am sure that has been noted for the record.

  • Mr Witness, Voinjama and Kolahun are in which county in Liberia?

  • Voinjama and Kolahun are in Lofa County in Liberia.

  • Now, going back to my question, the persons who made up LURD, what was their nationality?

  • LURD was mixed. It had Guineans, it had Sierra Leoneans, and Liberians.

  • In answering questions I posed about the third radio operator, Romeo Tango, that joined at Base 1, you mentioned LURD, its invasion of Liberia and Jungle Fire. The Jungle Fire that you referred to in that response, is that different or the same as the Jungle Fire you told us about last week?

  • I don't know. Please be specific, because I think last week I mentioned Jungle Fire during the NPFL, and I think I also mentioned, if I have not forgotten, the reactivation of Jungle Fire in 1999 . If I said that, which one are you referring to?

  • Very well, that's a fair question. At page 36 of today's LiveNote transcript, I am using a 14 point font, starting at line 11, you said - this is in relation to the radio operator: "She started working at Base 1 in 1999 during the LURD invasion in Lofa County in Liberia. That was where she was recruited as a radio operator by Jungle Fire."

  • Which Jungle Fire recruited Romeo Tango as a radio operator?

  • I am speaking of the reactivated Jungle Fire by Benjamin Yeaten.

  • When did this reactivated Jungle Fire come into existence? That is, when did Benjamin Yeaten reactivate Jungle Fire?

  • Benjamin Yeaten reactivated Jungle Fire in the year 1999 after LURD had attacked Liberia. They call the operation - LURD called the operation Operation Jungle Fire. When Benjamin noticed - when Benjamin Yeaten noticed that this operation of LURD was called Operation Jungle Fire, this was the time that he reactivated his Jungle Fire to combat the LURD Jungle Fire.

  • What was the size of the reactivated Jungle Fire group?

  • Were there any members of the SSS that Benjamin Yeaten used or deployed to fight for Jungle Fire?

  • The SSS bodyguards - some of the SSS bodyguards used to fight alongside Jungle Fire.

  • Give us examples of which SSS bodyguards of Benjamin Yeaten fought alongside Jungle Fire.

  • For example, Sampson Wehyee.

  • Is this the same Sampson that you referred to last week, the person from the same village as Benjamin Yeaten?

  • Who was commander, if any, of the Jungle Fire?

  • The overall commander of the Jungle Fire was one Gbarjulu, Junior Gbarjulu.

  • Now you refer to this --

  • I am not sure if we have a spelling of this.

  • Yes, it was on the record last week. We have it on the record at page - we have it on the record from last week I know and we do have a spelling of it. The witnessed referred to the person also as Julius last week, and it might take me a second to find it.

  • Very well, if it is on the record please continue.

  • Mr Witness, last week you told us about somebody called Junior Gbarjulu. You said you referred to him as Junior but others referred to him sometimes as Julius. What county in Liberia was this or is this person from?

  • Gbarjulu is from Grand Gedeh County.

  • Madam President, the name appears at page 47008 from the transcript of 24 August and there is a spelling there for Junior Gbarjulu.

  • Now, you said he was from Grand Gedeh County. Was Junior Gbarjulu a member of the Jungle Fire unit you told us about that fought ULIMO when ULIMO overran Gbarnga?

  • Yes. He was a part of Jungle Fire at the time when ULIMO overran Gbarnga.

  • Was he a bodyguard to Benjamin Yeaten at the time he assumed command of Jungle Fire in 1999?

  • Yes. He was a bodyguard to Benjamin Yeaten at that time. At that time he was in a unit called the SSU. This was the unit before the ATU.

  • What does SSU stand for?

  • Special Security Unit. This was then the long-range protection unit of the SSS.

  • Incidentally, one of my questions assumed a fact that you had not spoken of yet. Was Junior Gbarjulu commander of Jungle Fire in 1999?

  • After the reactivation of Jungle Fire in 1999, Junior Gbarjulu was the commander.

  • Very well. You said ULIMO attacked - sorry, you said LURD attacked into Lofa County. You referred to Romeo Tango being the radio operator for Jungle Fire. Before Romeo Tango came to Base 1, was she based in Lofa County?

  • Yes. She was in Lofa County, as I believe, because she is a Lofian, she is from Lofa. She was in Lofa County but, according to her, she was with - she was with I think the AFL at the time before she was transferred or recruited for the Jungle Fire.

  • Did the Jungle Fire group have radio communication equipment in Lofa County in 1999?

  • Yes. The Jungle Fire had a radio, a mobile radio, VHF radio, on the front line in 1999.

  • What was the call sign of that radio?

  • The call sign for that radio was Mobile 1. Mobile 1.

  • Besides Mobile 1, were there any other radios belonging to the Government of Liberia, I am not limiting it to only the Jungle Fire group, in Lofa County around the time of the LURD invasion in 1999?

  • Yes. There was a radio based in Voinjama that was under the police, the Lofa County commander, and the call sign for that radio was Forest.

  • You just referred to a commander in Lofa. What commander are you referring to?

  • I am talking about - there was a police county commander there by the name - I only knew his first name, Tomah. I didn't know whether it's his first or his last name, but he was called Tomah. He was the county commander for the police force in Lofa.

  • Can you spell Tomah for us, please?

  • Tomah, T-O-M-A-H. Tomah, T-O-M-A-H.

  • The radio with the call sign Forest, was that radio connected with the person you have referred to as Tomah?

  • Yes, it was connected to Tomah.

  • Was that an SSS radio?

  • No. I said it belonged to the Liberian national police.

  • You said that radio was based in Voinjama. Besides Voinjama, elsewhere in Lofa County did the Government of Liberia have any other radios?

  • During the time of LURD there was also a radio in Foya which was controlled by the navy division under the overall command of General Roland Duoh and the call sign for that radio was Amphibian Base, and sometimes it would be referred to as Forstrot Yankee, that is the abbreviation for Foya, but the official call sign for it was Amphibian Base.

  • Can you repeat the abbreviation for Foya that you just mentioned?

  • Forstrot Yankee. In English alphabet it is FY, but phonetically it is Forstrot Yankee.

  • Mr Witness, the record says "Foster Yankee". Is it Foster you are saying or something else you are saying?

  • I'm saying F-O-R-T-R-O-T, Forstrot Yankee.

  • Well, Mr Witness, we have several different spellings now on the record for this abbreviation. We have F-O-R-T-R-O, we have F-O-X-T-R-O-T. What exactly is the abbreviation you're saying, and just say it slowly, and if you could spell each letter of it?

  • Yes, I am saying Forstrot Yankees. Forstrot Yankee. F-O-R-S-T-R-O-T. F-O-R-S-T-R-O-T.

  • Thank you, we have it on the record. Now you have spoken of Forstrot Yankee. You have spoken of the same radio with the official name as Amphibian Base. You have spoken of Tomah's radio which you referred to as Forest. And then the radio you referred to as Mobile 1 being an SS - being a Jungle Fire radio. Are those all the radios that were in operation in Lofa County in 1999 by the Government of Liberia?

  • There was another front line radio that I have slightly forgotten to which group it belonged, but I used to call it Flying Eagle. Flying Eagle.

  • Where was that radio based?

  • This radio was based - it was a main front line radio in Lofa County. The commander of that unit was one Mike, but we used to call him General Eagle, Flying Eagle. I have forgotten his full name. If it comes to mind I will call it later.

  • What was the nationality of that commander?

  • While you were in Base 1 in 1999 was there radio communication contact between Base 1 and these various radio stations in Lofa County when LURD invaded Liberia?

  • Yes. When I was there, there was constant radio communication with all of these front line radios by Base 1.

  • Who was the primary radio operator for Mobile 1, the Jungle Fire radio?

  • The Jungle Fire radio had operators, such as Cyrus, whose full name I don't know, but he was referred to as Cyrus. And there was also an operator called Clean Dower. There was Cyrus and Clean Dower, the Dower is D-O-W-E-R. Because the Dowers - the Jungle Fire had two Dowers during that time. The Clean Dower was a radio operator and they also had Dirty Dower. They had Clean and Dirty Dower. Dirty Dower was a Jungle Fire fighting man. That was the distinction between the two Dowers, Clean and Dirty Dower - Dowers.

  • When was Dirty Dower also a radio operator?

  • No, your Honour. He was just a fighting man.

  • But Clean Dower was a radio operator?

  • Yes, your Honour.

  • And the radio operator you referred to as Romeo Tango that eventually moved to Base 1, when that radio operator was in Lofa, which radio did she operate?

  • She was operating Mobile 1, but - from Voinjama, but when operating Jungle Fire Mobile 1, Jungle Fire Mobile Radio 1, the same radio.

  • You mentioned previously that Benjamin Yeaten was always in Monrovia except for when LURD attacked. Was he based in Monrovia when LURD attacked?

  • Yes. He was in Monrovia when LURD attacked.

  • How about when the war with LURD intensified, where was his primary base of operations?

  • When the LURD - excuse me - when the war with LURD intensified he was now focused on the front line. He was mainly based in the bush, that is in Lofa.

  • When he was based in Lofa did he have a radio with him?

  • Yes, he had this Mobile 1 with him.

  • Is it the case then that Mobile 1 was not stationary in Voinjama?

  • Yes, it was not stationed - that is why I told you earlier that it was a front line mobile radio. It could be removed or transferred to any area, based on the situation, that is, when the Government of Liberia was progressing from one village to another village, the radio would move closer to the front line. Then, when LURD is advancing on the radio, on the Government of Liberia position, this radio would be relocated to another safe zone.

  • Just so you know, Mr Witness, it is not your fault. We knew when you said it was a mobile radio that it could be moved around. We just have to ask certain questions for the record?

  • Now, when Benjamin Yeaten was at the front line and had access to Mobile 1, were there occasions when there would be communication between him, while at the front line with Base 1, in Monrovia?

  • There will be an indirect communication with him, that is, if he wanted to pass down any information to Base 1 in connection or in relation to his family, or he wanted to talk to his family, he will give this information to his radio operator, either Clean Dower or Cyrus to tell Base 1 to put or - I mean, to tell Sunlight to connect the satellite phone that he had that could only receive so that he can communicate with his family back home.

  • Let's consider some of what you've said. You spoke of a satellite phone that he had that could only receive. Where was this satellite phone stationed?

  • This satellite phone was in his bedroom, controlled by his wives. That was where it was.

  • In his residence in Monrovia?

  • Yes. In his house in Monrovia.

  • Is this satellite phone different from the satellite phone you talked about last week that Benjamin Yeaten had, the one where you said one had to go outside to set up the antenna?

  • This is the satellite phone I'm speaking of, the one whose antenna had to be set up outside.

  • What did you mean when you said that the satellite phone could only receive?

  • According to him, this phone never had credit if you want to make a call, but it could receive calls.

  • Besides the satellite phone, did Benjamin Yeaten, in 1999, have any other satellite phones?

  • Yes. In 1999, during the war, he had the satellite phone; like I said earlier, he had a satellite phone called Thuraya satellite phone. I think I mentioned that on Friday or on Tuesday.

  • So how many satellite phones in total, let's take it year by year, did Benjamin Yeaten have starting with late 1998, how many satellite phones did he have?

  • In late 1998 he had two of these old type satellite phones that I spoke about, that is in a square form like this computer, whereby you had to take the antenna outside. He had two of them there with him.

  • Mr Witness, when you said he had two of them there with him, where did he have them? At which place?

  • I saw it with him in Monrovia at his residence.

  • Besides those two satellite phones, any other satellite phones in late 1998?

  • No.

  • In 1999, at the time of the LURD invasion of Liberia, how many satellite phones did Benjamin Yeaten have?

  • During this time he had this Thuraya phone that he was using, one of those previous satellite phones that could only receive were the satellite phones that he was using, but the Thuraya phone was the main one that he possessed at the time.

  • Was the Thuraya phone in his possession while he was at the front lines?

  • Yes. When he was on the front line he travelled with the Thuraya phone. It was through the Thuraya phone that he was communicating with his family back home.

  • Mr Anyah, I have my eye on the clock. It is now 11.

  • Yes, your Honour.

  • We will take our midmorning break and reconvene at 11.30.

  • [Break taken at 11.00 a.m.]

  • [Upon resuming at 11.32 a.m.]

  • Mr Anyah, please continue.

  • Thank you, Madam President.

  • Mr Witness, good morning.

  • Before the Court adjourned for the midmorning break, we were discussing the type of satellite phone that Benjamin Yeaten had in 1999 while LURD invaded Liberia. You recall that?

  • I just wish to be clear about the number of satellite phones, because we discussed that before the break and you said in late 1998 he had two satellite phones, both at his residence. And then I asked you about 1999. You said in 1999 he had the Thuraya satellite phone and you said he also had one of those previous satellite phones that could only receive communication. Give us a number. How many satellite phones did Benjamin Yeaten have at the time of the LURD invasion into Liberia?

  • Madam President, there is a telephone adjacent to our table that's a court telephone and it appears to be ringing. I don't know who is dialling the number. Well, it has stopped now. So I'll ask the witness the question again.

  • -- I have asked that you give us a number of how many satellite phones Benjamin Yeaten had at the time of the LURD invasion into Liberia.

  • At the time of the LURD invasion in Liberia, Ben had three satellite phones. Those are the two old model phones along with the Thuraya phone, but at this time only two were functioning. That is one of the old model phones that could only receive and the Thuraya phone which he always carried with him.

  • The one that could only receive, one of the older model satellite phones, where was that based?

  • It was based in his bedroom, in possession of his wives.

  • Thank you, Mr Witness. Now, picking up from where we left off, we have LURD invading Liberia. You spoke of Benjamin Yeaten at the front line with Mobile 1. You spoke of an operator named Cyrus, and you also mentioned another operator for Mobile 1 called Clean Dower. To your knowledge, Mr Witness, what was the nationality of Clean Dower?

  • Clean Dower is a Liberian.

  • What about the person that you referred to as Cyrus? What was his nationality?

  • Cyrus is also a Liberian.

  • The spelling of Cyrus, I believe, is not on the record yet.

  • Mr Witness, can you spell Cyrus for us?

  • Yes. Cyrus is spelt C-Y-R-U-S.

  • Thank you. When Benjamin Yeaten was at the front line with Mobile 1, was there ever a time when he had a Sierra Leonean radio operator?

  • There was no time that he had a Sierra Leonean radio operator with him, either at the front line or anywhere else.

  • The radio you referred to as Mobile 1, do you know whether, when Yeaten was at the front line, there was any communication between that radio and persons in Sierra Leone?

  • When you say "no", what do you mean? You do not know or there was no such communication?

  • I do not know.

  • If there had been such communication, you being at Base 1, at Benjamin Yeaten's home, is that something you would have been aware of?

  • Except if I was told by either of the two operators.

  • I'm sorry, I don't understand the use of this phrase "except if I was told" as an answer. Does it mean you would not know unless you were told? What does "except if I was told" mean?

  • That means I wouldn't know until they told me.

  • Did they ever, either of those operators, Clean Dower or Cyrus, tell you of communications with Sierra Leone when they served as Benjamin Yeaten's radio operator for Mobile 1?

  • They did not tell me about they having communication with any station in Sierra Leone. And furthermore, I believe that they never had communication with Sierra Leone because, like I said from the start of my testimony, that the communication between Base 1 and Bravo Zulu 4 or Planet 1 were strictly between Base 1 and Bravo Zulu 4. There was no other radio operators or radio stations within the government, with the exception of Base 1, that had privilege - that had access to these communications.

  • Now, I want to ask you one or two more questions about --

  • Mr Witness, were you ever at the front line at the time you were talking - you are now talking about?

  • I was not at the front line, but Base 1 was controlling this Mobile 1 as the head radio station.

  • Were you in communication frequently with Mobile 1 when you were at Base 1?

  • There were frequent communications between Mobile 1 and Base 1.

  • Using the week as a time frame, how often would Mobile 1 and Base 1 be in communication when LURD had attacked Liberia?

  • Almost every day there was communication between Base 1 and Mobile 1, because Base 1 was concerned to know what was happening at the front line.

  • Before the break we spoke about the Jungle Fire group. Can you give us an indication of the membership of that group, starting with their nationality. What nationals served as members of the Jungle Fire group, the people you referred to as the bodyguards of Benjamin Yeaten?

  • I told you that with regards to the size of the group, I cannot tell, I do not know the size of the group. But initially Jungle Fire comprised of Liberian nationals from the various counties, or some of the counties in Liberia.

  • You used the word "initially". Did the composition of the group change, as far as nationality is concerned?

  • Yes, it came a time when some Sierra Leoneans - some Sierra Leoneans were in this group.

  • And what time did that take place?

  • It was in 1999 during the disarmament process in Sierra Leone, around 1999 - or, let's say, during the disarmament. I do not know whether it was actually in 1999, but what I remember is that it was during the disarmament process in Sierra Leone that some Liberians who were with the RUF and who had been there since the beginning of the RUF came back. And these were some commanders, Liberians. They came and said that they did not want to stay in Sierra Leone during the disarmament process of the RUF because, according to them, Liberia, their mother country, was at war and they then decided to come back and help. So they came along with their bodyguards, both Sierra Leoneans and Liberian bodyguards. And these guys were all armed.

    So they came over and told Benjamin Yeaten that they came, but they hid and came. They were not sent by anyone. They came as Liberians who felt it was their responsibility to fight for their motherland and that was how they came. And some of them, like Jungle, they came apart from Jungle Fire. Those commanders --

  • Well, the interpreter has just said some of them like Jungle came apart from Jungle Fire. Did you say "apart" or did you say "he became a part of Jungle Fire"?

  • I said some of those commanders who came, like Jungle, Jungle became a part of Jungle Fire after he had entered and he then became part of Jungle Fire and did not return to Sierra Leone, not at all.

  • Let me go back to my question, we I appreciate your answer. I have a couple of follow-up questions. Let me start with this: Can you give us an example of some of these Liberians who were with the RUF and after the disarmament process decided to come back to Liberia to fight for Jungle Fire? Can you give us some names?

  • Yes, you said something. You said "after the disarmament process". But I said this happened during the disarmament process. During the disarmament process they then said they did not want to stay and be disarmed there.

  • Thank you, Mr Witness.

  • And what was your question?

  • Thank you for pointing that out, Mr Witness. Now, the question is: Give us some examples, for example, a name, of a Liberian who left Sierra Leone during the disarmament process, who did not wish to be disarmed, who came to Liberia and joined Jungle Fire.

  • Okay. I do remember a name like Martin George who is a Liberian from Bomi County. And one John Vincent, also a Liberian from Bomi County. And then Daniel Tamba, that is Jungle, from Lofa County in Liberia.

  • You said that some of them came along with their bodyguards, both Sierra Leoneans and Liberians. You remember my original question was whether there came a time when non-Liberian nationals joined the Jungle Fire. Now, this example of Liberians coming with Sierra Leonean bodyguards, those bodyguards they came with, were those bodyguards made part of Jungle Fire?

  • Some of those became part of the Jungle Fire. Like those who were with John Vincent and Daniel Tamba, they became part of Jungle Fire and they also joined other units.

  • Thank you, Mr Witness.

  • I want us to take a look at some photographs, but before I do so I have a few preliminary questions to ask you. Have you recently seen photographs of Benjamin Yeaten's house?

  • How did you come to see those photographs?

  • Those photographs were shown to me by the lawyers during the prepping exercise here. That was when the photos were shown to me.

  • And give us an idea of what the photographs depicted, the ones you saw during the proofing process. Did you understand the question?

  • The photographs that were shown to you during proofing, what were they displaying, what did they depict or show, the ones you looked at?

  • Yes, the photos showed Benjamin Yeaten's house where he was living. It also showed the house outside Benjamin Yeaten's fence where the radio was later transferred to, yes.

  • Thank you, Mr Witness.

    Madam President, we previously distributed to counsel opposite and the Court a set of photographs and they appear in tabs in a file folder. I wonder if everyone has a copy.

    Can I ask, Madam Court Manager, please, that all of the photographs from tabs 1 through 21 be taken to the witness, except for the photograph behind tab 5. So 1 through 21, except for tab 5.

    It might be necessary for the witness to switch seats, so that he can make indications on the photographs once they are displayed.

    So could we start with tab 1, whenever you are ready, Madam Court Officer.

  • Now, Mr Witness, do you see that photograph that is being displayed?

  • Yes.

  • Madam Court Officer, is there a way to make the photographs have a better contrast? Yes. That looks better.

  • Mr Witness, what is this a photograph of?

  • This is the photograph showing the front view of the house where Benjamin Yeaten was living at the time.

  • At which time, as in, during which years, did Benjamin Yeaten reside at this house?

  • I am talking about the time he moved into this house from late 1998 to 2003.

  • In which house was the radio with the call sign Base 1 installed at?

  • The radio with the call sign Base 1 was installed in this house from the beginning, like I said, in this particular house that is shown here.

  • Can we see the photograph behind tab number 2, please.

  • Mr Anyah, where was this house located?

  • Mr Witness, where was this house located?

  • This house is located in Congo Town, somewhere at the back of White Flower but a little distance from White Flower.

  • This is in Monrovia.

  • Can we see the photograph behind tab number 2, please.

    Mr Witness, what is that a photograph of?

  • This is a photograph of the building outside Benjamin Yeaten's fence where the radio Base 1 was later transferred into.

  • Shall we look at the photograph behind tab number 3.

    Mr Witness, what is that a photograph of?

  • This is a photograph of the same building that has just been shown where the radio Base 1 was transferred into. This is the front view of that building.

  • How many rooms does this small building have - or at least did it have at the time Base 1 was located inside it?

  • It had two rooms at the time Base 1 was located there.

  • What was kept in the room where Base 1 was, besides the radio?

  • Beside the room where Base 1 was installed, the other room was used as a storage room, and this store room was where the arms and ammunition for the Jungle Fire was kept. When the Jungle Fire, or whenever Benjamin Yeaten returned from the front line, he would collect the arms from --

  • Your Honours, could the witness be asked to slow down and repeat that area.

  • Just slow down a little bit, and you can actually take your pen and point to the rooms or the room you're talking about. You - just listen to what I have to say first.

    You mentioned that besides the room where the radio was, the other room was used as a storage room, and you went on to say that "When the Jungle Fire returned from the front line, Benjamin Yeaten would collect arms from". From whom would he collect arms?

  • He would order the Jungle Fire commander to collect the arms from those Jungle Fire men who had come from the front line, because he did not want them to be roaming about in the city with their arms strapped over them because they were not - they had not been unified.

  • What do you mean they had not --

  • Mr Witness, just listen to the question. What do you mean by saying that they had not been unified? First, who had not been unified?

  • I said because they were not unified, that is, the members of the Jungle Fire.

  • What do you mean when you say "they were not unified", that members of the Jungle Fire were not unified, what do you mean?

  • These men were using ordinary clothing; some had T-shirts on, they did not have uniforms like the ATU or the regular army, the Armed Forces of Liberia that people would be able to identify them by. They had coloured clothings on them.

  • You said "Benjamin Yeaten did not want them to be roaming about the city with their arms", and you mentioned the commander being asked to disarm them. Who was the commander, again?

  • General Gbarjulu.

  • When these men ever wanted to go back to the front lines, from where would they get their arms or ammunition?

  • Whenever they wanted to go back to the front line, they will come back here at Benjamin Yeaten's yard where the arms were being kept and then Gbarjulu, the commander, would give them the arms that had been previously collected from them, and that was how they got their arms and ammunition.

  • Was it only arms that were kept in that building, in the room you referred to?

  • Sometimes the ammunition would also be kept in here, provided - provided at the time they were going back at the front line and they needed to receive ammunition supply for the front line - they would keep the ammunition in this warehouse prior to their departure for the front line.

  • Let me ask you some clarifying questions. You have said now that arms and ammunition were kept in one of the rooms of that small building. You've now referred to ammunition, at least the record says "ammunition in this warehouse". Let me read to you what the records says. The record reads:

    "Provided at the time they were going back at the front line, they needed to receive ammunition supply from the front line." And this does not make a lot of sense. So help us clarify it.

  • If I said "from", then I made a mistake. I said provided if they received ammunition for the front lines, they would keep those ammunition in this warehouse prior to their departure. They would be kept there until the time for their departure and then they would take delivery of it and then move on to the front lines.

  • You are also referring to this building as a warehouse. Do you consider this building to be a warehouse or is that just the way you're referring to it?

  • That is how I refer to it, but it was only a store room where their arms and ammunition were temporarily kept, but it was not a warehouse.

  • The supplies or ammunition that they would receive, that is the Jungle Fire, from where did they receive that?

  • The supply that the Jungle Fire received - the commanders would receive these supplies and then they would bring them down. I was not with them to know where they got the supplies from. But actually, I don't know, but I believe it was given to them by the Government of Liberia.

  • So just to be clear. Are you saying that when soldiers came from the front lines their arms and ammunition were taken from them and kept in one of the rooms of this building? That is, Jungle Fire members.

  • And besides that, were other supplies kept in this building?

  • Now, shall we go to the photograph behind tab number 4.

  • Mr Anyah, before you do that. There's a question you asked the witness that he did not answer at page 59. The question was: "What was kept in the room where Base 1 was, besides the radio?"

  • Yes. Thank you, Madam President.

  • Mr Witness, the room in which Base 1 was located, besides the radio, was there anything else kept in that room?

  • No. Excuse me. That room was strictly the communication room, so only communication accessories were kept in that room.

  • Thank you, Mr Witness. Shall we look at the photograph behind tab number 4, please.

    Mr Witness, what are we looking at in this photograph?

  • We are looking at both Benjamin Yeaten's house and that of the house that housed Base 1. On the left --

  • You can point to it.

  • -- on the left, right here, the storey building here, you see the upper front view of Benjamin Yeaten's house and that of part of the lower front view, the opening here, right here, is the garage. And then here is the left side view of the radio room.

  • Thank you, Mr Witness. Shall we look at the document --

  • I'm sorry. Not left but right side. Right side view.

  • Thank you, Mr Witness. Shall we look at the photograph behind tab number 6, please.

    Sir, can you tell us what this photograph depicts?

  • Yes, we are looking at the roof of a building that one director, Joseph Montgomery, was living at the time, but that this roof - I mean, this building had been renovated as well as the fence. But before the roof was asbestos zinc, it was not a metal zinc, and also we were looking at the street, a street that is leading towards a community at the back of this place called --

  • Your Honours, the name of the community was not clear to the interpreter.

  • Mr Witness, what is the name of that community, and please spell it for us?

  • The name of that community is Pacos, P-A-C-O-S, something like that. P-A-C-O-S Island. Island --

  • Thank you. I think we know how to spell "island". Now, you said that the roof of the building was connected to director Joseph Montgomery. What exactly does Joseph Montgomery have to do with this building?

  • It is in this building that Montgomery was also living from 1998 to 2003.

  • How far from Benjamin Yeaten's house is this building where Joseph Montgomery resided?

  • Joseph Montgomery and Benjamin Yeaten shared a common fence at the right side of this photograph; they shared a common fence.

  • You were trying to indicate for us a change in the appearance of Joseph Montgomery's house between --

  • -- 1998 and now. You made reference to the roof. You said the roof was asbestos.

  • And you made reference to the fence. What were you saying about the fence that we are now looking at?

  • Okay. There is also a change in the fence. The fence also was a lower fence; they used Columbus bricks that one could see through.

  • The word you used, is it Columbus?

  • Yes, it's Columbus. I don't know the rightful pronunciation of that material anyway, but I believe it's Columbus.

  • You told us on Tuesday last that Joseph Montgomery had a radio at his house with the call sign Jungle Mark. You recall telling us that?

  • Was it in this house that that radio was located?

  • Can we take a look at the photograph behind tab number 7, please. Mr Witness, what are we looking at?

  • We are looking at a building that has white paint, and that is the building where Benjamin Yeaten was living.

  • Can you point to it with your pen, please.

  • This building is the building I am talking about. And then this is the fence, and between this fence and the mango tree out here, you have a street that runs from Tubman Boulevard down here. And in this fence, somewhere around here, it's not actually shown on this photograph anyway, there is a building where Montgomery's bodyguards were living.

  • Mr Anyah, the witness pointed to what he said was Benjamin's house. Where was that? I didn't see where he was pointing. Could you please point again, Mr Witness.

  • I am pointing at this building, this big building, so somewhat behind this tree. This tree is a mango tree, and this building is what I am talking about, with something like an upper porch that you are looking at.

  • An upper what?

  • Like a porch. But it's meant to - it's meant to receive water from the roof and pass it through, to go down to the tank, but it's made in the form of a porch anyway.

  • Is it pouch or porch, P-O-R-C-H, we're talking about?

  • Is this a different view of the same house that we've been looking at? Is it the same building but from a different view?

  • Yes. This is the same building but a different view. The side which we saw earlier that I pointed at a porch - no, I mean a garage, was the right-side front view of the building. You know, this building is a large building. And here that you are looking at now, and this that I described as a porch, you have the actual porch here. And then somewhere back here, somewhere in between here, is where Base 1, the radio, was installed. So now you are looking at the left-side view of this building. Here is the left-side view of this building.

  • Mr Witness, we will have other photographs to look at that might show other parts of the building.

  • The main question is: Is this building you've identified as Benjamin Yeaten's house the same building that we looked at in the first two and three photographs?

  • The premises before the tree that is shown in that building, the premises where you see a zincked house - actually, it's like a zincked shed - and you see grass, who owns that premises? And please point at it as you describe it.

  • Okay. In this premises I told you that somewhere by the left here, there is a building, a big structure here, where Montgomery's bodyguards were living. The building is not shown here anyway.

  • But who owned that premises, that yard that we are looking at, where this building where Montgomery's bodyguards were? Who owns that property?

  • I don't know the owner of it, but I believe that Montgomery was renting this property for his bodyguards.

  • Thank you, Mr Witness. Shall we look behind divider number 8, please. Mr Witness, what is this a photograph of?

  • This photograph is similar to what we just watched. This is the property or the fence that I had pointed at earlier that somewhere around here were Montgomery's bodyguards' residence and that this building is the same building that I had pointed, that is Benjamin Yeaten's building.

  • Thank you, Mr Witness. Shall we look at --

  • And I am seeing someone with a red shirt here, and this was the street that I was referring to in the previous photograph.

  • That street originates where? Where does it start?

  • This street starts from the Tubman Boulevard. That is where it starts from.

  • Is White Flower anywhere to be seen on this photograph that we're looking at?

  • No.

  • Shall we look at the photograph behind tab number 9. Mr Witness, what is this a photograph of?

  • This photograph is a photograph of Benjamin Yeaten's house. As we are seeing, this was the garage that I had pointed out earlier, and this was the porch that I was referring to. This is the porch, because I had told you earlier we were looking at one side of the front view, but this is now portraying both sides of the entire front view. This is the main entrance into the house. So that is what we are looking at.

  • The place where the photographer was standing at, the person who took this photo, behind that person would be what?

  • Please say that again.

  • Yes. Where in relation to the person who took this photograph is the small building we saw in the other photographs? Do you understand the question?

  • You mean from the position where the person took the photograph or where the person was positioned from the time he took the photograph of the small building? What is your question?

  • Yes. The question is: If you were standing in front, near that tree we're looking at in the photograph, and you were facing that pick-up truck, where would the small building be in relation to you?

  • Okay. If you were standing by the pick-up truck --

  • No. If you were standing in front of the tree in the photograph, right there in front of the tree.

  • You mean this tree?

  • Yes. Facing that pick-up truck, where would the small building be in relation to you? Would it be in your front, your back, your left, or your right?

  • Okay. The small building will be to your right, because this tree is planted very close to that small building.

  • Now, this street where you see the pick-up truck parked on, does that street connect with the street you mentioned that comes from Tubman Boulevard?

  • Yes. It connects with the street that I had spoken about, that I said originates from Tubman Boulevard, because we can see here someone with a red shirt standing almost close to the intersection.

  • Which direction is Tubman Boulevard, as you look at this photograph?

  • Looking at the photograph, the direction of Tubman Boulevard is towards the left.

  • So can you take your pen and draw an arrow from where Tubman Boulevard comes, and then draw an arrow through to the front of Benjamin Yeaten's house.

  • And please make it so that we can see what you draw. If you draw it clearly, so that we can make it out.

    Thank you, Mr Witness. Now, the arrow that's pointing to the little person that's depicted in that photograph, that arrow - that arrow depicts what? What does it stand for?

  • It's showing - it's showing Tubman Boulevard. It's showing the street coming from Tubman Boulevard.

  • And then the second arrow that is pointing towards the front of the photograph?

  • It's also going to Benjamin Yeaten's residence.

  • Where in relation to the pick-up truck is Joseph Montgomery's residence?

  • Joseph Montgomery's house is located somewhere behind this zinc shack that you are looking at, even though it's not that clear. But there is a demarcation somewhere around here, and Montgomery's house is somewhere at the back of this place, behind the zinc shack.

  • The road that comes from Tubman Boulevard, does it pass through Montgomery's house or does it end at that T intersection?

  • It ends right here. It ends right here. It does not pass through Montgomery's house.

  • Does that road that comes towards Benjamin Yeaten's house pass through the front of Joseph Montgomery's house? That is, does it go in the opposite direction?

  • And how would one get to Pacos Island, the place that you referred to, using these roads?

  • From this intersection, when you move left, you are going to Pacos Island, and when you bend right, you are coming to Yeaten's house.

  • So now can you write for us on this photograph, starting with the arrow near Yeaten's house, can you put on that arrow the notation, "Road to Benjamin Yeaten's house".

  • Yes. You have to write in small letters to try and fit everything.

    Now, can you draw an arrow towards the direction of Pacos Island. And can you put there, at the top of the arrow, "Road to Pacos Island". Mr Witness --

  • It's going straight this way.

  • Mr Witness, can we - can I see what you have drawn, please. Now, the second arrow, the arrow in the middle?

  • Can you use your pen, draw to the place that would otherwise be the sky. I want you to just take your pen and draw to this area; if you see what I'm pointing at, Mr Witness, just draw to this space and write "Road to Pacos Island", please. Thank you, Mr Witness.

    Now, in this photograph, do you see anything connected with White Flower?

  • No. There is nothing connected here with White Flower.

  • What about the fence on which you have drawn an arrow which says "This is the road from Tubman Boulevard"? There is a fence near the little child that's shown in that photograph. Whose fence is that?

  • This is the fence that Montgomery's bodyguards were living in. And also, a little bit deeper in here is sharing a fence towards director Urias Taylor.

  • Mr Witness, sorry to interrupt you. But when you put your pen on the paper, if you could just point at an angle and not over, so we can see what you're pointing at, because we really cannot see where you're pointing. If you tilt your pen to an angular direction, like this; yes, that's better for us.

  • Okay. I'm saying here, this fence is sharing another common boundary with Urias Taylor and that of Joe Tuah.

  • Did Urias Taylor and Joe Tuah reside together?

  • No, but they lived within the same fence but in separate houses.

  • Thank you, Mr Witness.

  • Did either of those persons, Urias Taylor, or Joe Tuah, have radio communication equipment in their residence?

  • Yes, they had radio equipment but the walkie-talkies that they had were personal walkie-talkies; they were assigned walkie-talkies.

  • Besides the walkie-talkies, did they have radios in their residence?

  • Besides the walkie-talkies, they did not have radios in their houses.

  • Mr Witness, can you sign the back of that photograph and can you date it with today's date and also include your DCT number. Today is 30 August. Thank you. Thank you, Mr Witness. We don't have to display the signature.

    Now, may we look at the photograph behind tab number 10, please. Mr Witness, what is this a photograph of?

  • This photograph is showing the house where the radio room was aside Yeaten's fence. This is the back view of that building. The back - from this position, it's the left-side view.

  • Do you see the tree we spoke of in relation to the previous photograph?

  • Yes. The tree is shown here. You can see the leaves and the bottom part of the tree on your left-hand side.

  • Thank you. And do you see what looks like the pick-up that we saw in the previous photograph? If you do not see it, please say so.

  • I can't identify it.

  • And now could you look at the right side of the photograph and tell us if Benjamin Yeaten's house is visible when you look at the right side of that photograph. Do you see any part that makes up the structure of Benjamin Yeaten's house?

  • Yes. That is the building --

  • This building is the left side - the right side of Benjamin's building.

  • Thank you, Mr Witness. Shall we look at the photograph behind tab number 11, please. Mr Witness, what is that a photograph of?

  • What we have here is Benjamin Yeaten's building and that of the fence.

  • Can you please point to it?

  • This is the fence that surrounds the building, and this is the building.

  • As you look at the building, do you see any parts of it that you can say is where Base 1 was located at?

  • Please point that out to us.

  • Somewhere down here, at the edge here, that was where Base 1 was located. Have you seen it?

  • Yes. Can you take your pen and put an X next to it.

  • And can you draw an arrow from the X and write "Location of Base 1". And can you write "Location of Base 1 from late 1998" until the point in 1999 when you say Base 1 was moved to the small building.

    Thank you, Mr Witness. Can you sign the back of that photograph, date it, and put your DCT number, please. Today is 30 August, 2010. We don't have to display that. Thank you.

    May we look at the photograph behind tab number 12, please. Mr Witness, what is that a photograph of?

  • This is also the fence of Benjamin Yeaten's and the house which is almost covered by the trees.

  • Thank you, Mr Witness. What view of the house does this show, at least the parts that you can make out?

  • It shows the front view of the house.

  • Shall we look at the photograph behind tab 13, please. Mr Witness, can you tell us what we are looking at?

  • We are looking at Benjamin Yeaten's fence and some portions of his house, but the front view - and they are looking at the garage where you see an individual that --

  • Can you point?

  • Okay. The opening here is the garage and here is the main entrance.

  • All the way to the right of that photograph, do you see anything?

  • Here is the small building outside of this fence where the radio was installed.

  • Thank you, Mr Witness. Can we look at the photograph behind tab number 14, please. Mr Witness, what is that a photograph of?

  • This is the photograph showing the upper and lower front views of Benjamin Yeaten's house. And then here also is the radio room, but the left - the front left side - the front right side of the radio room of the house.

  • Thank you, Mr Witness. Can you take your pen and draw from Benjamin Yeaten's house and write "Benjamin Yeaten's house" and then also draw from the small house and write "Location of Base 1 from 1999 until" whenever it stopped being located there.

  • Here it's not too clear.

  • Well, Mr Witness, you can put an X on the green building and then draw an arrow to the white side of the photograph and write the indication of what that building represents. And can you please sign and date the back of the photograph.

    Mr Witness, one question for clarifying purposes. You have consistently referred to this building as being a small house outside of Yeaten's fence. The fence that we see in the picture, if you look at the picture now and the other one that we've seen, does that fence encircle - that is, go all around - Benjamin Yeaten's house or is it broken up in certain portions?

  • Yes, it's broken up before the radio room here, and at the back here and all the way back that way is connected.

  • At the time you were at Base 1, was that fence broken up as it is displayed in these photographs?

  • Yes, it was broken up by erosion.

  • So when you say that this small house is outside the fence of Benjamin Yeaten's house: Where this house is located, is that still considered part of Benjamin Yeaten's property?

  • I cannot consider it part of his property because his property is in a fence, even though I do not see the cornerstone, but it is bearing indication that this property is for this, that is bearing any indication of this whole place being part of this property. But that notwithstanding, the fact that the house is in a fence means that it's in a separate area.

  • Yes, but my question had to do with the fence and you said the fence did not make its way all around Benjamin Yeaten's house when you were at Base 1. Then the next logical question is: Is it possible that that house was also on Benjamin Yeaten's yard; that is, considered part of his property?

  • Yes, as I said earlier, I do not know. I did not see the demarcation, but I considered it a part of Benjamin Yeaten's property because I learnt from him that he was also renting this place, this small house.

  • I assume that has been signed and dated, that is the one behind tab 14. Thank you, Madam Court Officer.

    Shall we look at the photograph behind tab number 15, please. Mr Witness, what is this a photograph of?

  • This is a photograph of a house that Benjamin Yeaten was living in, that we've been viewing throughout. And here, you are looking at the front of the house that had the communications set here, which I had always referred to as a small house.

  • Thank you, Mr Witness.

    Can we look at the photograph behind divider number 16, please. Mr Witness, what is this a photograph of?

  • This is a photograph that is showing almost the entire front view of Benjamin Yeaten's house.

  • And where is the entrance to the house?

  • This is the entrance - in the fence or to the house?

  • The front door of the house. If you know where it is, can you give us an indication?

  • The front door is somewhere here, even though it is dark.

  • Thank you. And where in relation to the front door is where the radio was before it was moved to the small house?

  • Please say that again.

  • Yes. Before Base 1 was moved to the small house, when it was still inside the big house, where in relation to the front door is it? To the left, to the right, how is it - what is its proximity to the front door?

  • That is to the left, but way in.

  • Very well. Shall we look at the photograph behind divider number 17, please. Mr Witness, what is that a photograph of?

  • This is a photograph of the house where Joseph Montgomery was also living.

  • Is that the same house that you showed us previously that you said its fence was not as high as it now is and that you said had asbestos roof?

  • And whose fence is that we're looking at?

  • What I am seeing here, it's like a divided fence. Here is Montgomery's fence and also here is a fence that Montgomery's bodyguards were living in. But at this time there was no fence here, the fence was built I think recently. In between these two fences there is the street that is going towards Pacos Island, it's in between here.

  • When you refer to the fence that's closest to us, those viewing the photograph, and you say, "By this time it was not there", which time are you referring to that fence not being there?

  • From 1998 to 2003, this side of this property was not fenced.

  • Thank you, Mr Witness. Shall we look at the photograph behind divider number 18, please. Mr Witness, what is that a photograph of?

  • I'll begin first with this fence. This fence is the fence that Montgomery's bodyguards were living in, somewhere here. And you're seeing the roof of Joseph Montgomery's house. And then somewhere here behind - let me not comment here because it's not clear. But here you are seeing the street from Tubman Boulevard down to the T-intersection. Rightwards goes to Benjamin Yeaten's yard and leftwards is passing in front of Montgomery's fence to Pacos Island.

  • Thank you, Mr Witness. Is White Flower visible in any part of this photograph?

  • White Flower is not visible here.

  • Shall we go to the photograph behind divider number 19, please. Mr Witness, what is this a photograph of, please?

  • This photograph is first showing the street from Tubman Boulevard, from this angle, and then here is the T-intersection, but we cannot see the other side because of this fence. Then you are seeing Joseph Montgomery's roof here and in here is where his bodyguards were.

  • The houses or images behind Montgomery's house, you see some pine trees and you see some bush. What is that part of Liberia called?

  • Up here - okay. This is part of Pacos Island but in here that you see is a swamp, a mango swamp that divides the valley. It has a stream that is separating Montgomery's house and the other side of the community, but that is Pacos Island there.

  • Mr Witness, in respect of this photograph, can you draw an arrow on that road pointing towards the T-intersection and write there "Road from Tubman Boulevard"; that is, first point the arrow and below the arrow you write "Road from Tubman Boulevard leading to Pacos Island and Benjamin Yeaten's house".

  • I have forgotten the word "boulevard". B-L-V-D?

  • Yes, you can use the abbreviation.

    Madam Court Officer, can we turn the photograph around so that we can read what has been written.

    And, Mr Witness, thank you for that. Can you draw an arrow from the zinc roof of Joe Montgomery's house and write "Joseph Montgomery's house".

  • Mr Anyah, I'm not quite sure which direction is Pacos Island from this intersection. Is it to the right or to the left?

  • I will ask the witness, Madam President.

  • Mr Witness, take your pen, draw an arrow, first put in an X on the roof of Joseph Montgomery's house and draw an arrow to the sky on the picture and write "Joseph Montgomery's house".

  • I am not too sure of the spelling of "Montgomery" here. Well, you can see it.

  • Yes, that's fine. Can you draw the arrow from "Joseph" all the way down to the roof, that is, draw a complete solid line from the roof to the arrow. Now, can you put an arrow, perhaps using the fence we see in the picture, pointing to the direction of Pacos Island, that is in relation to the road, and can you also put an arrow pointing to the direction of Benjamin Yeaten's house. That is in relation to the fence we see there for Joseph Montgomery's house.

  • For Ben I wrote the abbreviation "BY" indicating Benjamin Yeaten, because of space.

  • Yes, that is fine.

  • Madam President, I wonder if that satisfies your Honour?

  • Mr Witness, can you kindly sign and date the back of the document, putting your DCT number. Thank you.

    May we see the photographs behind dividers 20 and 21, please.

    Mr Witness, we've seen something similar to this but, for the record, what are we looking at? And you can point.

  • We are looking at the fence of Joseph Montgomery's bodyguards in here, and then we are looking at the roof and some parts of the body of Joseph Montgomery's house, here. And in here we have a double fence as well, in between which there is a street going towards Pacos Island.

  • And the next photograph behind divider 21, what are we looking at?

  • We are also looking at the fence of director Montgomery's body guards where you see this little coconut tree, and those are the two pine trees, and here we are looking at the street from Tubman Boulevard down to this T-intersection of Ben's yard and that of Pacos Island. And we are also looking at the roof of Mr Montgomery's house and some portions of the body of the building. We are also seeing the same double fence here, in between which we have the street going towards Pacos Island.

  • Thank you, Mr Witness. Now, you mentioned the name Urias Taylor and Joseph Tuah. Who is Urias Taylor?

  • Urias Taylor was one of the directors of the Special Security Service. To be precise, he was a deputy director for administration. He was the principal deputy to Benjamin Yeaten.

  • During which years was he principal deputy to Benjamin Yeaten?

  • In 1998, but I can't remember when another person took over his position.

  • Can I just indicate to Madam Court Officer to get ready the photograph behind tab number 5, but I will continue with questions to the witness until we are ready to look at the photograph.

  • How about Joe Tuah, who is Joe Tuah?

  • Joe Tuah was occupying one of the director's positions. I did not know when he was removed, but he was once deputy director for intelligence and then he later became assistant director for intelligence and later became a director without portfolio.

  • He was --

  • Assistant director without portfolio.

  • You said he was deputy director for intelligence and he later became assistant director without portfolio. Which organisation was he assistant director and deputy director?

  • I am speaking of the Executive Mansion Special Security Service, or Services.

  • Now, these persons, Urias Taylor and Joseph Tuah, have you recently seen a photograph depicting them, and others, that were members of the SSS?

  • Yes, I had. I recently saw their photograph.

  • How did you come to see those photographs - or that photograph?

  • The photograph was shown to me during the proofing when I got here by the lawyer.

  • Thank you, Mr Witness. May we show the witness the photograph behind tab number 5.

    Madam President, I should indicate about this photograph; an identical photograph appears in an already exhibited document in this case, that is, Defence exhibit 141, part number 4, page 37. That's the page numbering sequence used by CMS. It is actually the Presidential papers and the Defence exhibit, like I said, is 141, but the actual page of the photograph in the Presidential papers is page 181. So this photograph appears on page 181 of the Presidential papers, which is Defence exhibit 141. The difference is the version being shown to the witness has no names written below it, when the version in the Presidential papers had names printed under it.

    Now, Mr Witness, can you take a look at this photograph. Study it well and can you then use your pen and identify for us anyone you know in the photograph, and you can start from left to right.

    Madam Court Officer, yes, thank you for zooming in. Yes, you may begin.

  • I begin from left to right, right?