Mr Interpreter, I'm hearing you when I should be hearing a different voice. Could you please check the channels. Is anyone else having that problem? Yes, that's a universal problem, Mr Interpreter. Could you please check the channels.

If there are no other matters, I will proceed to remind the witness of his oath and we will continue cross-examination. For purposes of record I will confirm we're still in private session.

Does your Honour want to take representation first?

Oh, indeed. I note changes of appearance, Mr Koumjian.

Yes, good morning, your Honours. Joining us today is Leigh Lawrie and I remain, Nicholas Koumjian, for the Prosecution. Thank you.

Thank you for the reminder, Mr Munyard.

Madam President, for the Defence there's Courtenay Griffiths QC and myself, Terry Munyard.

Thank you. Mr Witness, I again remind you this morning that you have taken the oath, the oath is still binding on you and you must answer questions truthfully. Do you understand?

Yes.