Now, it continues:
"He said the Papay had told him that the ammunition had
been brought to Burkina Faso, so he was now to go and
receive the ammunition from Burkina Faso.
Q. When you say in this context the Papay, who are you
A. Commander-in-chief Taylor.
Q. And just describe sequentially what happened. You said
that when you arrived the course changed, but then you said
of Sam Bockarie, 'He said the Papay had told him that the
ammunition had been brought to Burkina Faso.' Do you know
when this happened?
A. Well, it was in December.
Q. When did it happen in terms of the course of your trip?
A. It was only after we had reached in Monrovia. That's
when I knew about that. That everything --
Q. How did you learn about that?
A. It was Mosquito who directly told me."
And then he establishes that the time frame is December 1998:
"Q. Now go ahead and I won't intervene. Just go ahead and
sequentially say what happened. So you arrived in Monrovia
and what happened then? Where did you arrive to?
A. When we got to Monrovia I was at Benjamin's place
throughout the trip waiting for Mosquito. I waited on him
in Monrovia and he went and returned. I was in Monrovia at
Benjamin's house using Base 1 to collect information from
the front lines, because I was coordinating with the front
line all of the times, and Mosquito used to call on the
phone, on the telephone line, to get information from me
directly pertaining to what was going on at the front line
and that was the reason why Mosquito travelled with me to
go to Monrovia; so he would be getting information.
Q. Where was Mosquito calling you on the phone from, do
A. Yes. Mosquito was calling me from Burkina Faso.
Q. And how do you know that?
A. He told me. When he arrived, that is Mosquito, he
called on the telephone and he spoke with Sunlight and
Sunlight called me and I spoke to him directly. He said he
had reached his destination. And even before he left he
told me that they were going to Burkina.
Q. How did it happen that the course changed?
A. Well, that one is for those in the higher echelons
because I don't know exactly why the course was diverted."
And bear in mind, Mr Taylor, this is a radio operator speaking.
"That one is for those in the higher echelons because I
don't know exactly why the course was diverted.
Q. So when you first arrived in Monrovia, where did Sam
Bockarie go when you first arrived?
A. When we arrived in Monrovia I was at Benjamin's and Sam
Bockarie and Benjamin used to go out. They would go out
for the whole day and sometimes when he would return he
would tell me that they met with Papay briefly and
sometimes - when we were in Monrovia even before he would
go out he will not come back to Benjamin for the whole day
at times, except the following morning, because we spent up
to 72 hours in Monrovia before Sam Bockarie took off for
Q. When you say we spent up to 72 hours, who spent up to
72 hours in Monrovia before taking off to Ouagadougou?
A. Myself, Rashid - myself, Rashid, Shabado and some of
Mosquito's bodyguards with whom he travelled.
Q. Who specifically actually went on the trip with Sam
Bockarie, do you know?
A. Well, from the RUF side I recall the late Pa Rogers and
Eddie Kanneh. They were the ones who travelled with Sam
Q. I am asking you about the trip that Sam Bockarie took
to Ouagadougou. Is that what you are referring to? Well
go ahead and say the people that you know travelled to
A. The people who went with Sam Bockarie to Ouagadougou
were the late SYB Rogers and Eddie Kanneh.
Q. And anyone else?
A. Those are the two I know of from the RUF. If any other
person was there, I don't know about that person.
Q. And how long were they gone for?
A. They spent up to a week. They spent up to a week in
Q. And during the week where did you stay?
A. I stayed in Monrovia at Benjamin Yeaten's house.
Q. And you said that you were receiving calls on the phone
from Sam Bockarie during the course while he was on this
trip to Ouagadougou. How often was that happening?
A. He called me about three times from Ouagadougou. About
Q. And were there any other discussions aside from what
you've already said about reporting the situation?
A. Well, during his stay in Ouagadougou, is that what you
mean? During his stay in Ouagadougou most of the
discussions we had was for me to give him updates from the
front lines. If there was any problem I should tell him
where there was that problem or where there was no problem.
That was the topic of discussion.
Q. How were you getting information to send to Sam
Bockarie about the front lines?
A. I communicated on the RUF radio net every day. Every
day I communicated on the RUF radio net. I followed the
various activities in the front lines.
Q. Now, you said they were gone approximately a week.
What happened when they returned? Describe what happened.
A. Well, I stayed at Benjamin's house right up to the time
Mosquito and others returned, and when they returned, he
returned at night. On the very night I did not see him and
the following day he came to Benjamin's house in the
evening. He was sitting in the studio for a short time,
that is Base 1, to get information from me, and he called
Issa and the two of them spoke and Mosquito gave me
instructions to send a message to the front line to some of
the commanders to come and meet him in Buedu - to come and
meet him, Mosquito, in Buedu. From there, that very
evening we took off together with Mosquito. All of us had
come with Mosquito took off again to go back to Buedu."
Let us pause there, and I want to ask you about one or two details been that. Now, the first thing Mr Taylor is this: This witness, although he accepts that he was not one of the higher echelons and therefore his knowledge might be limited, says that initially the visit was to be to Libya, yes? Then on arrival in Monrovia the plans changed because of your intervention, and instead they went to Ouagadougou in Burkina Faso; you understand that, yes?
Now, the witness goes on to say that he had radio or satellite phone contact with Bockarie whilst Bockarie was in Burkina Faso, yes?